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House Majority Whip Steve Scalise spoke to a white supremacist group in 2002, an explosive allegation that first surfaced Sunday on a Louisiana blog.

Read more: Steve Scalise office: Likely he spoke to white supremacist group - POLITICO

Well, the man who many have been looking towards as the future of the Republican Party and quite possibly a future President (See house of cards TV Show) seems to have more than a few skeletons in his closet. Not sure about the "rumor" however... It's a very interesting ripple.
 
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This has actually been confirmed: House Majority Whip Scalise confirms he spoke to white nationalists in 2002 - The Washington Post

"Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the House majority whip, acknowledged Monday that he spoke at a gathering hosted by white-supremacist leaders while serving as a state representative in 2002, thrusting a racial controversy into House Republican ranks days before the party assumes control of both congressional chambers."
 
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He claims he didn't know who they were, but it seems to me a name like European-American Unity and Rights Organization should trigger some kind of curiosity.
 
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Politicians shouldn't talk to white people now? When was that made a rule?
 
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Politicians shouldn't talk to white people now? When was that made a rule?

Politicians shouldn't talk to nazis and skin heads unless it's inside a prison.
 
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You use a right-wing rag to try and deny yet another racist Republican?

No, I never denied the Republican was rascist. I just pointed out that he is not the only apparent rascist politician in the United States.

Now, going back to objectivity, Do you think polticians should embrace Nation of Islam activists?
 
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No, I never denied the Republican was rascist. I just pointed out that he is not the only apparent rascist politician in the United States.

Now, going back to objectivity, Do you think polticians should embrace Nation of Islam activists?

Prove that Barack Obama embraces hate groups. You may not use a right-wing rag to do it. Use a credible objective journalistic source.

Ga'head.
 
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Prove that Barack Obama embraces hate groups. You may not use a right-wing rag to do it. Use a credible objective journalistic source.

Ga'head.

Sure, I will find another source detailing Barack Obama's ties to Munir Muhammad and Munir's CROE orgainization. But can you also:

Prove my source is inaccurate. And no, your unsupported verbal acclamation that it is a "right wing rag" does not constitute "proof".


Didn't you know? Only white people can hate.

White haters usually cant hate and be a state employees and get a hug from the President.

Sadly, Munir Muhammad, the uhmmm "heavily ethnocentric, but not rascist per se" - yeah right, head of CROE is also a state employee of Illinois. He also gets hugs from the Obama.
 
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Sure, I will find another source detailing Barack Obama's ties to Munir Muhammad and Munir's CROE orgainization. But can you also:

Prove my source is inaccurate. And no, your unsupported verbal acclamation that it is a "right wing rag" does not constitute "proof".




White haters usually cant hate and be a state employees and get a hug from the President.

Sadly, Munir Muhammad, the uhmmm "heavily ethnocentric, but not rascist per se" - yeah right, head of CROE is also a state employee of Illinois. He also gets hugs from the Obama.

Your source is hyperbolic at best. Politicians meet all kinds of people. The problem this Republican has is he KNEW where he was speaking and to whom. It's not like some guy wanted to have his picture taken. The right-wing is full of that sort of crap and that's the biggest problem that the Republicans have.

Here's more proof for 'ya: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tea-partiers-protest-lynch-obama
 
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Politicians meet all kinds of people.
Obama and Scalise probably have that in common.
The problem this Republican has is he KNEW where he was speaking and to whom.
And Obama, a life long Chicago politician, had no idea who Munir Muhammad, a life long Chicago political activist, is?
 
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Yes, there are right wingers who make inflammatory and borderline rascist comments. Other right wingers are undoubtably rascist.

These characteristics, however, are not unique to the right wing alone. Leftists made simialr inflammatory comments about Bush.

I'm glad we agree. I don't like leftists either. I don;t think that GW is a racist, I just think he's stupid as hell. Obama is no peach either, but he's not a racist neither was he born in Kenya.
 
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He claims he didn't know who they were, but it seems to me a name like European-American Unity and Rights Organization should trigger some kind of curiosity.

???? A name like that indicates nothing racial whatsoever, so why would it trigger any curiosity? Now I can understand questioning the wisdom of accepting a speaking invitation without doing a little legwork on the group you are speaking to, but that name alone wouldn't set off any red flags for anyone. In hindsight, you can see something there since you know that it's a WP group, but without that context, that name simply sounds like any one of a number of pro-Euro/American unity groups.
 
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Politicians shouldn't talk to white people now? When was that made a rule?

White supremacists. You can read, right?
 
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???? A name like that indicates nothing racial whatsoever, so why would it trigger any curiosity? Now I can understand questioning the wisdom of accepting a speaking invitation without doing a little legwork on the group you are speaking to, but that name alone wouldn't set off any red flags for anyone. In hindsight, you can see something there since you know that it's a WP group, but without that context, that name simply sounds like any one of a number of pro-Euro/American unity groups.

Are the rights of European-Americans under attack? Are there a lot of groups like this?
 
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Are the rights of European-Americans under attack? Are there a lot of groups like this?

They could be?
It's certainly not politically correct though.
 
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White supremacists. You can read, right?

So what? Should any politician that has spoken in front of CAIR step down?

Should Obama resign his presidency because he speaks to Sharpton?

Theose people are voters and why shouldn't a politician speak to them?

You have no idea what was spoken about and it was 12 years ago.
 
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My take....

Is it a good look that he talked to that group? No, not at all. It's definitely not a good look for him, or for Republicans in general.

That said...

It was smart on his part to simply own up to the fact he spoke with them from the onset. He also claims that he had not looked significantly into what or who the group was before speaking at the meeting in question.

While it's absolutely possible he's lying, there's little reason to just assume that he is. The meeting in question took place in 2002. The group was created only two years before that, and had gone by an entirely seperate name for it's first two years of life (NO FEAR). All reports from seem to indicate that Scalises statements and discussions at said meeting were about rather benign, standard, Republican talking points regarding welfare programs and things like affirmative action. While people may have varying views on those, and people may like to assume they're Professor X and can read peoples minds, there's nothing inherently racist or vile in terms of having views that affirmative action is not a good program or that we need to cut back on federal welfare spending. Nothing that's been reported seems to suggest this politician was actually articulating or arguing for inherently white supremicist/white nationalist policy/stances/statements. Nor does he have any seeming history of racially questionable statements or actions, outside of the standard pathetic attempts by some hyper partisan liberals to label basic Republican policy beliefs as "racist". There also, at this point, doesn't seem to be some kind of ongoing involvement with this group outside of this particular event.

So does this look bad? Yes. Would it be bad if he knew that this was a white nationalist or supremicist group and went to speak with them anyways? Yes. Would it have been bad if he tried to cover it up? Yes. If it comes out that he's had an ongoing working relationship with that group for multiple years would it be bad? Yes.

But at this moment I'm not seeing anything to get horribly worked up about with where this story currently is. It was discovered he was at said event. He admitted he was at said event. He gave a plausible claim that he didn't realize the groups makeup and ultimately goals at the time; something that seems at least possible given various facts. Nothing he reported to have said or endorsed was inherently a racist or supremcisist/nationalist type of notion, and he's had no seeming continued consistent contact with the group.

Does it look bad? Yes. Does it probably make it smarter politically to go for another whip at this time? Absolutely. But given all the facts that have came out thus far, to me this is kind of a shoulder shrug in terms of some kind of thing to get worked up about in terms of him personally, the party, or him being in congress.
 
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Are the rights of European-Americans under attack? Are there a lot of groups like this?

European-American Unity and Rights Organization

It's easy to see that connection now that you have the context, but without that context, it sounds like a pro-Euro/American unity group. You have to step back and look at this objectively and WITHOUT 20/20 hindsight to see that this is a name that could apply to a couple of different ideologies. It's easy to say "Well it's obvious that it's a WP group.", but that's because your frame of reference has been set. Without that reference to influence your view of the group, it could easily look like a center-left org. that wants to support Euro/American unity and create rights that would apply to either party. Now I think that Scalise (actually his staff) failed in not vetting the organization before he agreed to speak before them, but to think that he shouldn't have done so based on nothing more than their name is expecting too much.
 
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