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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Are you then suggesting then that perhaps Sen. Landrieau was right when she said:



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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which questions did you have in mind?

    No, they do not take it seriously at all. They use race for political purposes, and that is reflected in the statements by their politicians. We can easily see the social damage this has caused.

    I'm dealing with that perception in this post. "Perceptions' are for the poorly schooled.

    Only for the poorly educated adolescents. People lose interest in those who cry wolf continually when there is no substance attached soon lose interest and move on to more important things in their lives.
    I question why he would agree to speak at organization he did not know for what they stand for. I question how could a person who is neighbor to a member of the group and known friend and associate of David Duke not know that the likelihood of this organization is racist is pretty high. I question how he could be friends with a neighbor that associates with racist groups and known racists without knowing that that person is a racist. I question his veracity when he states he did not know what the group was. I question his professionalism if he did not know what the group was. I question his judgement if he knew what the group was and spoke anyway. I question his fitness as a leader of our country if he either did not care that the group was racist or did not know the group was racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant
    No, they do not take it seriously at all. They use race for political purposes, and that is reflected in the statements by their politicians. We can easily see the social damage this has caused.
    Oh so now you know the heart and mind of every liberal and every liberal politician? Can you let me borrow that crystal ball sometime? What social damage in specific are you referring to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant
    I'm dealing with that perception in this post. "Perceptions' are for the poorly schooled.
    This statement is pure nonsense. Perception is not for the poorly schooled. Perception is the reality for those that perceive it. You are speaking nonsense.

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    Only for the poorly educated adolescents. People lose interest in those who cry wolf continually when there is no substance attached soon lose interest and move on to more important things in their lives.
    Again thank you for illustrating the dismissive attitude towards racial issues so obviously.

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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    The same only opposite argument can made with conservatives. Conservatives are so quick to deny any racial motivations in almost every situation that it only fuels the notion that conservatives are racists. Also it causes otherwise low level issues to explode as controversy like this one. To place all the blame on liberals is just asinine and does not help the situation. Also the quick reaction of conservatives to deny racial motivations sometimes fuels the liberal cause to inject race into situations. This is a double edge sword. How is it resolved...by taking the objections of racism by the minority community and minority leaders seriously and not dismissing it out of hand or attacking it as playing the "race card." If we are going to move forward against racism, both real and perceived, the first step is to take people who make those complaints with degree of seriousness and legitimacy instead of attacking them and dismissing them.
    Oh no, liberals do gat to carry the bulk of the burden in this issue. It's been the over-reacting to crap that's caused this kind of reaction in conservatives, not the other way around. The way to address it is to make sure that ONLY the legitimate issues are given the kind of attention that they need and start telling the dimwits who are blowing up non-issues to sit down and shut up. It's the LEFT that's lost integrity by over-reacting to every possible situation that could possibly be spun to look racist and it's the left that needs to take steps to correct that. Like the boy who cried wolf, it wasn't the villagers who were at fault when the wolf really did attack, it was the boy. From the right's perspective, pretty much every complaint of racism starts with "Here we go again. Another over-reaction to something that has no basis is reality." because for the most part that's is the case. Ferguson was a classic example of this. What should have been addressed as strictly an issue of whether the officer was justified in the shooting turned into a racial argument. There was NO evidence of racism by the officer other than the fact that he was a white police officer and yet if you listen to the left, it was ALL about race. Now, because the discussion turned to racism, instead of if the officer was justified, the issue gets treated like a non-issue by conservatives because we aren't even listened to if we don't jump on the racism bandwagon.
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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    This man gave a speech to a group 12 years ago and people are calling for him to step down.

    Charlie Rangel is as dirty as they come and he is acceptable.

    There is a disconnect here as to what issues are important.
    Yup. There are serious issues, and what has Congress been doing all these years? Presenting fake Obama birth certificates, having hearings on something that did not happen in Benghazi, smearing Bush on his military record, and the list just goes on and on. But there is good news. Congress is bipartisan. Each side is smearing the other side. Yes, folks. Congress has come together to do some work. Whether that work is important or not is up to you and Bugs Bunny to decide.
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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Seems to me that these two speeches were delivered to rather similarly extremist groups.

    Seems to me that the politician's treatment should be about the same. Shouldn't it?
    Scalise will most likely be President in the future. I know he wants it, his team wants it, and the Majority of the Republican Party adore him, hence his new title that emboldens that! As has become known since this story has broken out. Even if his term as Whip is damaged somehow, he will be back and he is just getting started. Although something tells me that there is a hard right sector out there that would love to see him gone. The Libertarian Wing think he is too boehner-like and they are afraid of him.

    Though the points you bring up are of course interesting. Why can Obama hang out with radicals (no one assumes he is racist, besides for the few that know better) but Republicans cannot even talk to racial groups?? It's a good question the Republicans NEED to bring up when dealing with this story. Most of the well known political news cycle is on vacation right about now, most right wingers will come back on the airwaves in 2015, so they will knock it down.
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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Scalise will most likely be President in the future. I know he wants it, his team wants it, and the Majority of the Republican Party adore him, hence his new title that emboldens that! As has become known since this story has broken out. Even if his term as Whip is damaged somehow, he will be back and he is just getting started. Although something tells me that there is a hard right sector out there that would love to see him gone. The Libertarian Wing think he is too boehner-like and they are afraid of him.

    Though the points you bring up are of course interesting. Why can Obama hang out with radicals (no one assumes he is racist, besides for the few that know better) but Republicans cannot even talk to racial groups?? It's a good question the Republicans NEED to bring up when dealing with this story. Most of the well known political news cycle is on vacation right about now, most right wingers will come back on the airwaves in 2015, so they will knock it down.
    You point out that it's the typical party politics attacking the upcoming potential candidates that pose a threat, much to their unfair destruction. It's also the same liberal / progressive / Democratic Obama and / or Democrats never done a wrong BS, where as the Republicans are always doing wrong crap.

    Frankly, I'm just so sick and tired of the hypocritical inconsistent standards being applied whenever it's to the liberals / progressives / Democrat's political advantage. Why aren't the Republicans doing the same thing back at them? It'd only be fair, after all.
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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You point out that it's the typical party politics attacking the upcoming potential candidates that pose a threat, much to their unfair destruction. It's also the same liberal / progressive / Democratic Obama and / or Democrats never done a wrong BS, where as the Republicans are always doing wrong crap.

    Frankly, I'm just so sick and tired of the hypocritical inconsistent standards being applied whenever it's to the liberals / progressives / Democrat's political advantage. Why aren't the Republicans doing the same thing back at them? It'd only be fair, after all.
    Republicans are easy to hate. Just look at what happened to Christie :'( At least this has a shred of proof. Bridgegate was all based on lies told by Dems to knock Christie out.
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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    I question why he would agree to speak at organization he did not know for what they stand for. I question how could a person who is neighbor to a member of the group and known friend and associate of David Duke not know that the likelihood of this organization is racist is pretty high. I question how he could be friends with a neighbor that associates with racist groups and known racists without knowing that that person is a racist. I question his veracity when he states he did not know what the group was. I question his professionalism if he did not know what the group was. I question his judgement if he knew what the group was and spoke anyway. I question his fitness as a leader of our country if he either did not care that the group was racist or did not know the group was racist.
    Do you have a link for the above statement. Nothing I have read mentions this.
    In 2004 he slammed Duke.
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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Do you have a link for the above statement. Nothing I have read mentions this.
    In 2004 he slammed Duke.
    Duke adviser Kenny Knight: Scalise didn’t know about white nationalists at 2002 event - The Washington Post

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    Re: Scalise Allegedly Spoke with White Supremacy Group

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Republicans are easy to hate. Just look at what happened to Christie At least this has a shred of proof. Bridgegate was all based on lies told by Dems to knock Christie out.







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