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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    We gave the Taliban a Office in Qatar.....they don't negotiate, which they told us Right before Kerry came up with both Afghan Candidates ruling together. They are into a power struggle with each other.

    BO is releasing Taliban and the worst of the worst.....they will not be thinking about kicking their shoes off and sitting anything out. Most will want payback. Which this doesn't count any of the issues dealing with AQ being back in.

    Moreover how many attacks wherein our troopers were shot in the back? They even killed a US Army General. The Afghans like the Pakistani.....cannot be trusted!
    No, they cannot be trusted but soldiers were expected to be friends rather than soldiers. Diplomacy efforts should be left to diplomats but who the victors are, and where the power lies, should never have been in doubt.

    The Taliban have outsmarted the Harvard educated fools, and have won another victory.

    Taliban declares 'defeat' of U.S. troops in Afghanistan - Chicago Tribune

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/29/...ftar-militias/

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    We gave the Taliban a Office in Qatar.....they don't negotiate, which they told us Right before Kerry came up with both Afghan Candidates ruling together. They are into a power struggle with each other.

    BO is releasing Taliban and the worst of the worst.....they will not be thinking about kicking their shoes off and sitting anything out. Most will want payback. Which this doesn't count any of the issues dealing with AQ being back in.

    Moreover how many attacks wherein our troopers were shot in the back? They even killed a US Army General. The Afghans like the Pakistani.....cannot be trusted!
    so what would you do MMC? I made my ideas fairly clear, see what pays off at least till 2016.
    Karzai is gone, Ghani has a real unity gov't . Paki isn't playing the double game . The ANSF are fighting and dying...

    All of which could be nothing, but it's a better chance then it ever was in the past 12 years but still a sticky wicket
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/08/...nts-strongmen/
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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    so what would you do MMC? I made my ideas fairly clear, see what pays off at least till 2016.
    Karzai is gone, Ghani has a real unity gov't . Paki isn't playing the double game . The ANSF are fighting and dying...

    All of which could be nothing, but it's a better chance then it ever was in the past 12 years but still a sticky wicket
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    Since we were not in it to win it.....I would leave Afghanistan all to its own demise.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, they cannot be trusted but soldiers were expected to be friends rather than soldiers. Diplomacy efforts should be left to diplomats but who the victors are, and where the power lies, should never have been in doubt.

    The Taliban have outsmarted the Harvard educated fools, and have won another victory.

    Taliban declares 'defeat' of U.S. troops in Afghanistan - Chicago Tribune

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/29/...ftar-militias/

    ISIS Takeovers in Iraq: Biggest Islamist Victory Since 9/11


    Heya Grant. I agree with you.....although, truthfully the Taliban was not fighting an Army that was out to destroy them. Regardless if that means Afghanistan would lose 2/3rds of their population. So, while they may have won the conflict. There didn't really need to worry, and not from any Democracy.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    NATO was supposed to be a defensive alliance for a potential war in Europe, instead it soon became a military tool for Western imperialism. It should have never gone into the Middle East.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Grant. I agree with you.....although, truthfully the Taliban was not fighting an Army that was out to destroy them. Regardless if that means Afghanistan would lose 2/3rds of their population. So, while they may have won the conflict. There didn't really need to worry, and not from any Democracy.
    Hi MMC!

    That brings up the question then of why the Army was even there. That the strongest military force in the world should be sacrificing these good men and women and then leaving for the Islamists to take over just doesn't make any apparent sense. The families and friends of those people who died in Iraq and Afghanistan must be asking themselves what it was all for.

    It seems to me that there has to be some continuity between Presidencies when the country is at war or it will continue to be one defeat after another, with domestic political purposes overriding the welfare of the country and its allies.

    The US retreating from the Middle East and Afghanistan will only embolden terrorists, just as we have seen in Iraq, Egypt and Libya. American wars have always been held somewhere else but I'm not sure, with the latest demonstration of weakness, that this good fortune will continue. That the American people themselves are divided and uncertain about foreign policy, even as to who is their enemy, is also a negative indicator.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    NATO was supposed to be a defensive alliance for a potential war in Europe, instead it soon became a military tool for Western imperialism. It should have never gone into the Middle East.
    You misunderstand NATO. http://www.nato.int/terrorism/five.htm

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    NATO was originally the position of a Western European alliance to deter Communist Eastern Europe, now it has become a tool of liberalism to suppress all those against its message.


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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    NATO did not start out as an anti-terrorist alliance, that was added in later. Your reading comprehension is terrible.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    NATO was originally the position of a Western European alliance to deter Communist Eastern Europe, now it has become a tool of liberalism to suppress all those against its message.
    What 'message' are you referring to?

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