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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Key functions will include:
    •Supporting planning, programming and budgeting;
    •Assuring transparency, accountability and oversight;
    •Supporting the adherence to the principles of rule of law and good governance;
    •Supporting the establishment and sustainment of such processes as force generation, recruiting, training, managing and development of personnel.
    Beyond the training, advice and assistance mission, Allies and partners countries are committed to the broader international community’s support for the long-term financial sustainment of the Afghan security forces

    NATO-led Resolute Support Mission in Afghanistan
    http://www.nato.int/cps/da/natohq/topics_113694.htm


    https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org...t-reliability/
    ^ good read

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Key functions will include:
    •Supporting planning, programming and budgeting;
    •Assuring transparency, accountability and oversight;
    •Supporting the adherence to the principles of rule of law and good governance;
    •Supporting the establishment and sustainment of such processes as force generation, recruiting, training, managing and development of personnel.
    Beyond the training, advice and assistance mission, Allies and partners countries are committed to the broader international community’s support for the long-term financial sustainment of the Afghan security forces

    NATO-led Resolute Support Mission in Afghanistan
    http://www.nato.int/cps/da/natohq/topics_113694.htm


    https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org...t-reliability/
    ^ good read


    Well, I am not fond of supporting the long term financial sustainment of the Afghan Security Forces. Tell the Afghans to get up and do some work and pay for their own ****.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, I am not fond of supporting the long term financial sustainment of the Afghan Security Forces. Tell the Afghans to get up and do some work and pay for their own ****.
    they can't afford to pay police ( 3000 police alone killed this year)
    and "long term security forces" according to the article -so what else to do?
    If they are willing to fight for their freedom/country - i'm willing to pay on an international basis - a lot of contributions don't just come from the US.
    We got bases, and money commitments worldwide so this isn't new.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No they are not. Look to the Mumbai bombings/killings and the terrorist in Pakistani jail that was released then it was reversed around the same time as a the school murders.
    Pakistan rearrests Mumbai terror suspect | World news | The Guardian

    Police inspector Mohammed Arshad told the court that someone had filed a complaint at a police station on the outskirts of Islamabad saying that Lakhvi had abducted his brother-in-law to wage “jihad” six and a half years ago. The judge granted a police request for time to investigate the accusation, extending Lakhvi’s detention for two days.
    thought you might find this of interest. It was a re-arrest not revocation of bail.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    So long as we have troops anywhere in the middle east, our part of the war will never be over. Islamic fascists want to fight over their desert, maybe its time to let them go at it. We are mostly self sufficient in terms of oil, and they arent that great of consumers. So we're running out of reasons to have any interest there that cant be handled through the UN. Its time to try non-intervention.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    they can't afford to pay police ( 3000 police alone killed this year)
    and "long term security forces" according to the article -so what else to do?
    If they are willing to fight for their freedom/country - i'm willing to pay on an international basis - a lot of contributions don't just come from the US.
    We got bases, and money commitments worldwide so this isn't new.
    I would tell them.....create some jobs. Boost a lil economic activity, and then hire some more police. Forget about trying to catch up with the tech for now. Start with the basics.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I would tell them.....create some jobs. Boost a lil economic activity, and then hire some more police. Forget about trying to catch up with the tech for now. Start with the basics.
    I think they have an extractive economy - lots of natural resources,not much else.
    China has some contracts for the lithium, but with oil prices being where they are..
    I'm thinking baby steps here, get rid of the corruption that existed under Karzai, see how it goes

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I think they have an extractive economy - lots of natural resources,not much else.
    China has some contracts for the lithium, but with oil prices being where they are..
    I'm thinking baby steps here, get rid of the corruption that existed under Karzai, see how it goes
    That's on them.....I wouldn't foot any bills. Nor would I go with the Demo mantra of.....for a hamburger today, I will gladly pay you next Tuesday.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Key functions will include:
    •Supporting planning, programming and budgeting;
    •Assuring transparency, accountability and oversight;
    •Supporting the adherence to the principles of rule of law and good governance;
    •Supporting the establishment and sustainment of such processes as force generation, recruiting, training, managing and development of personnel.
    Beyond the training, advice and assistance mission, Allies and partners countries are committed to the broader international community’s support for the long-term financial sustainment of the Afghan security forces

    NATO-led Resolute Support Mission in Afghanistan
    http://www.nato.int/cps/da/natohq/topics_113694.htm


    https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org...t-reliability/
    ^ good read
    Sometimes, one must admit that a situtation is hopeless and that a ground up (top down?) rebuild is required. A "nation" that has never had a functional central government, has a 5% literacy rate and has one paved road cannot be expected to govern itself, much less, create (and control) a viable security force. In order for "democracy" to have any chance of success in a nation, it first requires a population that can make decisions without having them based, nearly entirely, upon corruption and loyalty to "tribal" leaders that maintain power by force.

    Phantom aid in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya AT. Did you see or hear BO's speech on Afghanistan. He claimed it as a success.

    While the Taliban laugh and talk about how BO negotiates to end the War they say isn't over.

    Our troops are going to be hard pressed having to watch out for the Taliban and with the re-emergence of AQ in Afghanistan.
    Trust me. No battle buddy of mine gives Obama ANY credit for ANYTHING having to do with the war. This genius changed the rules of engagement to where we can't fire at the enemy until they have already shot at us. The "wait to get shot" rule is why no service member respects Obama.

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