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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No they are not. Look to the Mumbai bombings/killings and the terrorist in Pakistani jail that was released then it was reversed around the same time as a the school murders.
    yes, but that was a court decision if I understand? I'm not here to defend Pakistan, but I think you missed this, this is more then just rhetoric:
    I can't c/p all 20 points ( at this link ) Pakistan announces a national plan to fight terrorism, says terrorists’ days are numbered - The Washington Post

    These are very significant...I'm not gonna comment on each one, as I'm sure you understand enough to see there significance.

    Which at least leaves some room for more optimism in Afgh, as to the conditions that have finally changed there too that I listed in above post.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    About damn time. How about instead of leaving these troops behind to provide "training" and "assistance" we bring them home. Afghan will remain the graveyard of empires, and those empires include America.
    And let it turn into the biggest terrorist safe haven in the world, again? Yeah, that's going to have a happy ending.
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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And let it turn into the biggest terrorist safe haven in the world, again? Yeah, that's going to have a happy ending.
    Biggest? Naaa. That belongs to the unstable states of Syria and Iraq, and maybe Libya.


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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Biggest? Naaa. That belongs to the unstable states of Syria and Iraq, and maybe Libya.
    ISIL is in Derna, Libya. Not just Islamists, but actual jihadi.

    All this from the civil war the US and NATO created there with our "humanitarian war" mandate from the UN. ( killing Qadaffi )

    he fighters are taking advantage of political chaos to rapidly expand their presence westwards along the coast, Libyan sources tell CNN
    ISIS comes to Libya - CNN.com
    the Derna branch of ISIS counts 800 fighters and operates half a dozen camps on the outskirts of the town, as well as larger facilities in the nearby Green Mountains, where fighters from across North Africa are being trained..

    Derna today looks identical to Raqqa, the ISIS headquarters town in Syria" an analyst says...

    It has been bolstered by the return to Libya from Syria and Iraq of up to 300 Libyan jihadists who were part of ISIS' al Battar Brigade -- deployed at first in Deir Ezzor in Syria and then Mosul in Iraq. These fighters supported the Shura Council for the Youth of Islam in Derna, a pro-ISIS faction.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    ISIL is in Derna. Libya. Not just Islamists, but actual jihadi.

    All this is besides the civil war the US and NATO created there with our "humanitarian war" mandate from the UN. ( killing Qadaffi )
    Sometimes getting involved in other countries civil wars leads to bigger problems and more unstable countries. Lets just hope the chickens dont come home to roost, but they may of already begun the journey...


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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    It's always so hard for us to break away from that craphole of a region, when will we learn....
    "We have more responsibility than power, I think. The newspaper can create great controversies, stir up arguments within the community or discussion, can throw light on injustices....just as it can do the opposite. It can hide things and be a great power for evil." -- Rupert Murdoch, 1968

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Who won the war?

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Who won the war?
    Mornin' RDS. I would say the Taliban, and with BO sending More Gitmo Taliban detainees back to the battlefield it looks like we will still be fighting in this conflict for some time to come.

    Lets not forget those who were left as Gitmo detainees are the worst of the bunch and BO already released the Cream of the Crop.

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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Biggest? Naaa. That belongs to the unstable states of Syria and Iraq, and maybe Libya.
    Obama's Arab Spring and Obama's Iraq.

    What a great idea from the Nobel Peace Prize recipient, seedlings of terrorism around the globe.
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    Re: NATO flag lowered in Afghanistan as combat mission ends

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Biggest? Naaa. That belongs to the unstable states of Syria and Iraq, and maybe Libya.
    And what do Iraq and Afghanistan have in common?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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