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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Third Malaysian aircraft this year.
    I thought this was only the second? Starting to sound like the Bermuda triangle. At least this sounds weather related and not mysterious.

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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I thought this was only the second? Starting to sound like the Bermuda triangle. At least this sounds weather related and not mysterious.
    Three planes within one year is a jinx.

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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    To be fair, half of the top ten most safest airlines happen to be Asian. The Malaysian carriers just had a real run of bad luck this year.
    That's probably fair - I'm not a world traveler so my comments are probably unfair and based solely on anecdotal evidence of what's been in the news the past couple of years. Considering the level of air travel throughout Asia, they're probably quite safe - especially considered against all other forms of transportation - cruise lines getting a bad rep the last couple of years as well.
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    Clean up on aisle four
    Incrementally, and always under the guise of "fairness", "equality", and "social justice", the US Constitution has been deceitfully interpreted in ways that remove all limitations on central authority...and place them on the people.

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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Third Malaysian aircraft this year.
    That's interesting. Is it also the 3rd Airbus this year?

    The reason that I ask is that some of the punditry are observing that the similar size Boeing leaves the pilot as the final authority, in that he can override the computer control at any time. Not so in the Airbus, or so we are to be lead to believe.

    One might even be legitimate in expanding on that difference into a comparison and contrast between US and European approaches to solutions.
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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    That's interesting. Is it also the 3rd Airbus this year?

    The reason that I ask is that some of the punditry are observing that the similar size Boeing leaves the pilot as the final authority, in that he can override the computer control at any time. Not so in the Airbus, or so we are to be lead to believe.

    One might even be legitimate in expanding on that difference into a comparison and contrast between US and European approaches to solutions.
    No, you would not be legitimate in this.
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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, you would not be legitimate in this.
    You don't see the parallel?

    US airplane, the pilot is the man in charge, the man responsible, has the final authority.
    US culture is, or rather has been, typically away from large bureaucratic morass in favor individual accountability and responsibility.

    EU airplane, the pilot is only there for the last 300 ft of the landing, otherwise, the autopilot is in charge.
    Should the pilot take over from the autopilot, the business side of the airlines reviews the autopilot log and questions the pilots actions.
    EU culture is for large, intrusive bureaucratic monstrosities.

    The US culture created the Boeing autopilot system. The EU culture created the airbus autopilot system. Each of the systems are a representation of their cultures solving the problem of needing an autopilot system.

    The culture which produces products and systems contributes the culture from which they come from intertwined, embedded in those products and systems. It's unavoidable.
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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You don't see the parallel?

    US airplane, the pilot is the man in charge, the man responsible, has the final authority.
    US culture is, or rather has been, typically away from large bureaucratic morass in favor individual accountability and responsibility.

    EU airplane, the pilot is only there for the last 300 ft of the landing, otherwise, the autopilot is in charge.
    Should the pilot take over from the autopilot, the business side of the airlines reviews the autopilot log and questions the pilots actions.
    EU culture is for large, intrusive bureaucratic monstrosities.

    The US culture created the Boeing autopilot system. The EU culture created the airbus autopilot system. Each of the systems are a representation of their cultures solving the problem of needing an autopilot system.

    The culture which produces products and systems contributes the culture from which they come from intertwined, embedded in those products and systems. It's unavoidable.
    You are hilariously wrong. You started with your preconception and invented a situation to support it.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 loses contact with air traffic control: reports

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    That's interesting. Is it also the 3rd Airbus this year?

    The reason that I ask is that some of the punditry are observing that the similar size Boeing leaves the pilot as the final authority, in that he can override the computer control at any time. Not so in the Airbus, or so we are to be lead to believe.

    One might even be legitimate in expanding on that difference into a comparison and contrast between US and European approaches to solutions.
    No, the 777 twice...both Boeing.

    Fly by wire is pretty much the same on Airbus and Boeing, pilot can override on both systems.
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