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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I don't question their expertise. Even experts, when examining a relatively small sample, can reach incorrect conclusions. That's because the sample in question wasn't representative. The largest amount of information--and more than just computer-related--remains classified. It is that information that provides a strong degree of confidence that North Korea was responsible. Launching the first retaliatory cyberattack is precedent-setting, and it is highly unlikely the U.S. would have done so or indicated it would do so (with a proportionate response) without fairly conclusive evidence.
    Well couple of things set off alarm bells that this wasn't NK. The Source code US/FBI claimed to be of NK origin in it's press release is actually code that was released to the public. I.E. it's in the public domain. Which means ANYBODY with some skills can do it and leave that source code behind. Next.. the hacker/hackers never mention the movie in their releases. Not once. It was only after the MSM jumped to the conclusion did everybody assume that's what the hacking was for. And then why would the hackers be okay with the release of the movie without actually hacking Sony again?

    This is very simple stuff the FBI can't get straight.. and saying it was NK based on IPs? It's called Poxy servers FBI, you twits.
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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I'm looking just fine. How about you oh wise one?
    That's not what I got on it.....but then you do have quite a, imagination. Still as usual, you do need to cut down on the day-dreaming.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Well couple of things set off alarm bells that this wasn't NK. The Source code US/FBI claimed to be of NK origin in it's press release is actually code that was released to the public. I.E. it's in the public domain. Which means ANYBODY with some skills can do it and leave that source code behind. Next.. the hacker/hackers never mention the movie in their releases. Not once. It was only after the MSM jumped to the conclusion did everybody assume that's what the hacking was for. And then why would the hackers be okay with the release of the movie without actually hacking Sony again?

    This is very simple stuff the FBI can't get straight.. and saying it was NK based on IPs? It's called Poxy servers FBI, you twits.
    I would be willing to bet you really have no idea about this. Have you somehow seen any of the evidence that the FBI has not released or are you just guessing. The FBI has a bunch of very smart people that work for them and they can also get assistance from several other US agencies among them the best electronic espionage and counter espionage agency in the world. You would have to be very naive to think the FBI does not understand what a proxy server is.

    I would say that to think you (who is only relying on what the media is reporting) know more then the FBI who are conducting the investigation makes you look quite a bit more like the twit then them.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's not what I got on it.....but then you do have quite a, imagination. Still as usual, you do need to cut down on the day-dreaming.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Well couple of things set off alarm bells that this wasn't NK. The Source code US/FBI claimed to be of NK origin in it's press release is actually code that was released to the public. I.E. it's in the public domain. Which means ANYBODY with some skills can do it and leave that source code behind. Next.. the hacker/hackers never mention the movie in their releases. Not once. It was only after the MSM jumped to the conclusion did everybody assume that's what the hacking was for. And then why would the hackers be okay with the release of the movie without actually hacking Sony again?

    This is very simple stuff the FBI can't get straight.. and saying it was NK based on IPs? It's called Poxy servers FBI, you twits.

    Another armchair expert I presume?

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    North Korea was NOT behind the Sony hack according to multiple security experts | Daily Mail Online



    If it was an inside job then it definitely would've been in the best interest of the FBI to blame it on a foreign enemy. If it was an inside job, what could this mean for internal security in the United States?

    I also find the Russia connection rather interesting.
    Well if anyone can get it wrong, it's the FBI. We'll just have to wait and see if a more competent investigation finds out something more.
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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    North Korea was NOT behind the Sony hack according to multiple security experts | Daily Mail Online



    If it was an inside job then it definitely would've been in the best interest of the FBI to blame it on a foreign enemy. If it was an inside job, what could this mean for internal security in the United States?

    I also find the Russia connection rather interesting.
    Right wingers don't listen to security experts--they listen to lindsay graham and rush limbaugh.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I would be willing to bet you really have no idea about this. Have you somehow seen any of the evidence that the FBI has not released or are you just guessing.
    There's nothing to stop the fbi from lying about the evidence it has.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There's nothing to stop the fbi from lying about the evidence it has.
    Yeah, if you discount the fact that any decent network admin can tell you the source of the DDOS traffic hitting them.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There's nothing to stop the fbi from lying about the evidence it has.
    Oh I see. It is a conspiracy. That makes so much more sence.

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