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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post


    Didn't need the FBI to tell us who was responsible, sysadmins already knew.
    Once again, please explain to us how a sys admin can determine the geographic location where a hack originated.

    Take all the space you need.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Who needs the FBI ot NSA then? You've got all figured out! You must be a real genius!


    Genius is massive overstatement.

    clownboy apparently doesn't even know the basics of TCP/IP, or he would know how easy it is to spoof the source IP address of a TCP/IP session w/the use of external proxies.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Don't blow nonsense. I'm a good sysadmin who knows my trade, but I'm not the best. This isn't rocket science, not at the level you're talking about.
    Nothing's ever as simple as it appears without all the information. Unless you're privy to all the details of this situation YOU could be blowing nonsense for all I know.
    Last edited by EnigmaO01; 12-29-14 at 10:11 PM.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post


    Didn't need the FBI to tell us who was responsible, sysadmins already knew. And this has nothing to do with conservative or liberal, it has to do with knowing what the hell you're talking about.
    You don't know what the hell you're talking about or you wouldn't make ridiculous statements like "any decent network admin can tell you the source of the DDOS traffic hitting them."

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The US govt. has lied since it was founded, despite the serious repercussions. . .

    Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com
    And you're going off on a tanget. All governments lie. But this is too big of a story to get caught lying.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Genius is massive overstatement.

    clownboy apparently doesn't even know the basics of TCP/IP, or he would know how easy it is to spoof the source IP address of a TCP/IP session w/the use of external proxies.
    Correct. All kinds of software out there that can bounce your IP address all over the globe.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Please explain to us how one can determine the source of a TCP SYN flood attack. That's what you claimed in your post.
    Here's a good start in your education.

    How to Trace a DDOS Attack

    After writing out the botnets at the router level it's the job for the NOC (Network Operating Center) folks to shut down the zombie army controllers (like generals in the army vein). At this point it's possible to peek into the traffic controlling the generals. That's typically your source. You can't always get it down to precise location, but you can get the country/region. Packet sniffers help.

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Here's a good start in your education.

    How to Trace a DDOS Attack

    After writing out the botnets at the router level it's the job for the NOC (Network Operating Center) folks to shut down the zombie army controllers (like generals in the army vein). At this point it's possible to peek into the traffic controlling the generals. That's typically your source. You can't always get it down to precise location, but you can get the country/region. Packet sniffers help.
    Yeah piece of cake even against a determined adversary that is determined to prevent standard protocols from working. Sure...

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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You don't know what the hell you're talking about or you wouldn't make ridiculous statements like "any decent network admin can tell you the source of the DDOS traffic hitting them."
    Interesting, I must be a genius then, as are the many other sysadmins I communicate regularly with. You know, in one hand I have what you are saying, and in the other I have what I have been doing for the last 10+ years. They are at odds. Which do I believe?

    Maybe the next attack I mitigate and investigate I'll go, "gee, maybe solletica was right" and quit my job.
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    Re: NK did not hack sony, according to security experts

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Nothing's ever as simple as it appears without all the information. Unless you're privy to all the details of this situation YOU could be blowing nonsense for all I know.
    Indeed, didn't say it was simple, just intimated it's not beyond knowing if you know what the hell you're doing.

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