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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so here is the question...I have noticed that peoples actions over the past 40 years or so have become more and more self centered...For instance, when I was a kid, never would you have had people going to this length to attempt to keep a store open just for themselves...

    So, how about it? Are we becoming more selfish? Is this lashing out like depicted in the story a result of people feeling like they are being too tightly controlled? What say you?
    Selfishness has been raised to a virtual art form. Normal decadence is no longer enough, greed and disgusting decadence and selfish behavior has almost become the norm. Why think yourself lucky that a company and the good people who work there have sacrificed part of the christmas eve time so that you can do your shopping after most regular people have joined their loved ones at home for a nice meal and the enjoyment of being with those loved ones.

    But maybe you had a job that made it impossible to shop until 8pm on chrismas eve, it is not like you could have done that shopping in any of the days leading up to xmas eve but still, needs must prevail, arrogance must be adhered to and you are the only person that matters on xmas eve, not the employees who worked a long holiday season and yearn to be with their loved ones for the holiday season. Noooooo, you and you alone are the one that matters and silly people who cannot see or understand that.

    I live in a country where church and unions had made the Sunday into a no shopping day. But with the rejuvenation of the employer/employee relationship making it possible to not think of Saturday and Sunday as the 2 days in the week in which you have to be off (Dutch law says employees must have 2 days off in a week and those 2 days have to be consecutive). With cities/municipalities now being free to choice for themselves whether or not the shops may be open on Sunday, it has been a new day for Dutch shoppers.

    When I was younger, shopping for groceries was done from 9am to 6pm on Monday to Friday and from 9am to 5pm on a Saturday and shops were closed on Sunday.

    Nowadays, supermarkets are open from 8am to 8pm on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, from 8am to 10pm on Thursday and Friday and from 8am to 8pm on a Saturday. And with the added bonus of most supermarkets also being open on Sunday (differs from city to city but normally from 12am to 5/6pm is normal. And we as customers are happy with that change, it makes us free to decide on when we want to do the shopping. In the US most customers have been blessed with liberal opening times from shops, but at some point the people should learn to be happy with what they have. Have a bit of compassion with your fellow human beings who work in shops, allow them to have the same joy of Christmas eve as most other people get to enjoy and close at a regular/reasonable time.

    Selfishness as said has been raised to a virtual frigging art form but enough is enough. People have to learn to be a bit less selfish and that will be to the betterment of the entire human population/society.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The hackery never stops.
    Yes, I'm sure this was a pack of wild conservatives becoming violent over a Walmart closing early on Christmas eve.

    Do you ever listen to yourself?

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Surely you can see the difference between getting upset or losing interest, and becoming violent.
    Yup, but the mindset is the same. It's the "you HAVE to satisfy me, and do it NOW" mentality.

    We've largely brought this own ourselves, by becoming so good at satisfying our customers, and by creating ways that it can be done instantly or nearly instantly. Not that it's a bad thing, it's great when businesses can do that, but it might be creating a whole new set of social problems that we have never had before.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, I'm sure this was a pack of wild conservatives becoming violent over a Walmart closing early on Christmas eve.
    Oh, for crying out loud. I never made that claim.

    There's zero evidence these people are "liberals." There's zero evidence that they are "conservatives." Why is it so hard to fathom that a group of people got swept up in a mob mentality that has nothing to do with politics or ideology? Why is there such a rush to claim "liberalism" is why anyone does anything bad?

    You do realize that a great many Americans are largely apolitical, yes?

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    Do you ever listen to yourself?
    I do, and I also listen to utter hacks who do NOTHING but see something bad and try to find a way to blame it on "liberals," evidence-free.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, I'm sure this was a pack of wild conservatives becoming violent over a Walmart closing early on Christmas eve.

    Do you ever listen to yourself?
    I doubt that those people were polled for their political lean. In all honesty, I don't think that politics has anything to do with it.

    The hackery is when someone tries to make it a political issue, blaming either liberals or conservatives.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Yup, but the mindset is the same. It's the "you HAVE to satisfy me, and do it NOW" mentality.

    We've largely brought this own ourselves, by becoming so good at satisfying our customers, and by creating ways that it can be done instantly or nearly instantly. Not that it's a bad thing, it's great when businesses can do that, but it might be creating a whole new set of social problems that we have never had before.
    Oh gimme a break. Becoming violent, and not becoming violent are not the same mindset, and you know it full well.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, I'm sure this was a pack of wild conservatives becoming violent over a Walmart closing early on Christmas eve.

    Do you ever listen to yourself?
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, for crying out loud. I never made that claim.

    There's zero evidence these people are "liberals." There's zero evidence that they are "conservatives." Why is it so hard to fathom that a group of people got swept up in a mob mentality that has nothing to do with politics or ideology? Why is there such a rush to claim "liberalism" is why anyone does anything bad?

    You do realize that a great many Americans are largely apolitical, yes?



    I do, and I also listen to utter hacks who do NOTHING but see something bad and try to find a way to blame it on "liberals," evidence-free.
    Rioting/mobs really are more of a lefty thing though.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, I'm sure this was a pack of wild conservatives becoming violent over a Walmart closing early on Christmas eve.

    Do you ever listen to yourself?
    Do you ever think outside your little "lets attack the liberals" box? What is being discussed in this thread is the larger societal issue of what creates situations like this. I understand that the extent of your posting is "I want to attack liberals" but try to think outside your box and address the larger concerns here.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Oh gimme a break. Becoming violent, and not becoming violent are not the same mindset, and you know it full well.
    If you think that the point I was making is about is unruly liberals, then I guess you are correct. But that wasn't really my point.

    It was that people in general maybe are becoming overly demanding of others, in order to satisfy their need for immediate gratification is.

    And I am still waiting for someone to explain how they know that those people at walmart are liberals.
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