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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Yeah, you know those evil liberals who go around telling kids to give up on their hopes and dreams.
    Hopes and dreams don't improve one's life, hard work, commitment and responsibility do. You can dream all you want, it isn't going to do a damn thing unless you get off your ass and make it happen.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because you have no actual solutions of your own.
    Right, because the ****ing free-market is all that is holy is a great ****ing solution. Don't roll your eyes at me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Hopes and dreams don't improve one's life, hard work, commitment and responsibility do. You can dream all you want, it isn't going to do a damn thing unless you get off your ass and make it happen.
    I'm doing fine, thanks.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I'm doing fine, thanks.
    Then why do you whine so much?
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then why do you whine so much?
    Where was I whining?

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    FYI, I wouldn't consider me pointing out your simple ideas about value and the free market to be just that, simple, to be whining.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Where was I whining?

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    FYI, I wouldn't consider me pointing out your simple ideas about value and the free market to be just that, simple, to be whining.
    I would, considering you seem to have no better ideas of your own. You're just complaining.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I would, considering you seem to have no better ideas of your own. You're just complaining.
    Let the free market decide if I'm complaining. It works for everything else.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    maybe you shouldn't use such boilerplate talking point blather, and you might get some better replies...
    You made some talking points blather about SS 'going broke.' It need not, and it doesn't take anything near drastic changes to the program to keep it 'solvent' for 75 years or so. If you want to present some actual data or evidence for your talking point blather, I'll respond in kind. Deal? Great!

    Contempt? not at all...Hell, I used to be the epitome of 'working poor'.... Hell, at one point the Church gave us Thanksgiving dinner, and that was all we had in the house...So don't tell me...Those "poor people" you speak of also have things like EIC's on their taxes at the end of the year, that all but ensure that not only do they get whatever they paid in income taxes back, but an additional couple thousand as the credit...So, in terms of net taxes paid, they don't, they in fact get money back, or more welfare if you will.
    Yeah, it is contempt, or ignorance. First of all, nowhere near half the country pays negative total taxes. And if in any one year they did, many will later pay significant amounts in taxes, like you say you now do, so you're labeling half the country as freeloaders off the "producers" when you were for at least part of your life a parasite on the producers.

    Furthermore, working women (generally) with kids get big EITC refunds, the rest of the roughly 10 million who can claim EITC get back some part of their payroll taxes, but don't get refunds or 'negative' taxes. And everyone pays sales, excise, property etc. If you have data showing half the country pay NEGATIVE total taxes, let's see it, and then we'll discuss how many of them are students, and will pay taxes very soon, or are poorer seniors who spent a lifetime paying taxes and now are living on generally untaxed SS etc.

    It's a BS talking point....unless you have some evidence you'd like to cite to back it up.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    I don't get it. How can we have a problem with single women with kids not making enough money and at the same time not have any sort of problem with people getting back more money then they pay in?

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't get it. How can we have a problem with single women with kids not making enough money and at the same time not have any sort of problem with people getting back more money then they pay in?
    I sorta agree.

    I'd much prefer a higher minimum wage, the elimination of all forms of means tested welfare (including the EITC, food stamps, etc), and huge tax cuts on the bottom three income tax brackets (which would also provide a tax cut to the working rich). With the higher minimum wage and lower tax rates, lower income workers wouldn't really need for welfare, all they would need is to get a full time job.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I sorta agree.

    I'd much prefer a higher minimum wage, the elimination of all forms of means tested welfare (including the EITC, food stamps, etc), and huge tax cuts on the bottom three income tax brackets (which would also provide a tax cut to the working rich). With the higher minimum wage and lower tax rates, lower income workers wouldn't really need for welfare, all they would need is to get a full time job.
    Yea, its really kind of ridiculous the way we subsidize businesses that predominately employ low income workers. Raise the minimum wage, those businesses can adjust their prices to truly reflect the cost of their labor, and you can eliminate most welfare except for some basic services and unemployment.

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