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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Slave labor does not have to be forced labor. Sweat shops are a form of slave labor.
    And they choose to work there because they have no saleable skills that others would pay more for. Whose fault is that again?
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I guess where I disagree is that just because the market puts a value on something, that doesn't necessarily make that value correct.
    How do you objectively determine "correct" values? Please explain it to us.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

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    Social security can be "fixed" relatively easy for the indefinite future. Most of the current problem is the stagnation/decline in wages for the bottom half or so, but even with that, we don't have a big SS problem other than the political will to make a couple of unpleasant choices - slightly higher taxes and/or slightly lower benefits.



    Where did you get the idea half the country pays no net taxes? Even those who don't pay federal INCOME taxes spend almost all their money on sales taxable items, and so pay sales taxes (in my area of 9.25%), which fund schools, and they pay real estate taxes either directly or as part of their rent which directly fund schools, and pay a portion of the income taxes of the businesses they purchase from, etc. And of course most pay about 15% in payroll taxes, gas taxes, other excise taxes (phone etc.) and more.
    Yes, yes...We can print more and more money...At some point, I can just raid the Monopoly game for funds too....

    As for schools, most of the funds come from property taxes locally, but this meme about those paying sales taxes, gas, and others, is just a feel good load of crap to make non producers feel better.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And they choose to work there because they have no saleable skills that others would pay more for. Whose fault is that again?
    I find it hard to believe that a large portion of the population has no skills.

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    How do you objectively determine "correct" values? Please explain it to us.
    I don't have the answers, I just don't believe the free market is infallible and I think history is my side with that.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And they choose to work there because they have no saleable skills that others would pay more for. Whose fault is that again?
    The person born in poverty with poor life chances, education and family support of course!
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The person born in poverty with poor life chances, education and family support of course!
    Yet people rise from that all the time, people improve their situation all the time, it's a choice. That people make bad choices is no one's fault but their own.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet people rise from that all the time, people improve their situation all the time, it's a choice. That people make bad choices is no one's fault but their own.
    Not really. The stats show that class is fairly inelastic. People born poor tend to stay poor and people born rich tend to stay rich - especially in the United States.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I find it hard to believe that a large portion of the population has no skills.



    I don't have the answers, I just don't believe the free market is infallible and I think history is my side with that.

    history also shows you that Central government trying to provide for everyone fails....See Roman Empire.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Not really. The stats show that class is fairly inelastic. People born poor tend to stay poor and people born rich tend to stay rich - especially in the United States.
    Equality in outcome is a pipe dream.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    history also shows you that Central government trying to provide for everyone fails....See Roman Empire.
    There is a non sequitur/straw man combo if I've ever seen one.

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    Equality in outcome is a pipe dream.
    It's bad because it's bad and it will always be bad.

    Thanks.
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