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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Those who have gone the ideological route have, as usual, no clue and refuse to challenge themselves with really examining the issue. From what I've seen, this is not about ideology at all. It's about current technology.

    In this day and age, with technology as it is, we live in a time where one practically NEVER has to delay gratification. Want to watch a specific movie? In the old days, you waited until it came to the TV. Now, you have on demand services all over the place? Want to buy something? In the old days, you waited until you had time and went to the store... or if the store didn't have it, you either bought something else, went to a different store, or ordered it from the store and waited. NOW, go to Amazon or Ebay, click a few buttons, and in a day or so, it's yours. You don't even have to leave your room. Want to talk to someone? In the old days, you either waited until you got home... and spoke to them IF they were home too, or you found a pay phone, and again spoke to them if they were home, too. Now, you can reach anyone anytime, anywhere. Just pull your cell phone out and call. They have one, too. People are not used to gratification delay, so when they are told "no, wait", it contradicts everything that they usually do. Hence, what happened in the OP's article.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Those who have gone the ideological route have, as usual, no clue and refuse to challenge themselves with really examining the issue. From what I've seen, this is not about ideology at all. It's about current technology.

    In this day and age, with technology as it is, we live in a time where one practically NEVER has to delay gratification. Want to watch a specific movie? In the old days, you waited until it came to the TV. Now, you have on demand services all over the place? Want to buy something? In the old days, you waited until you had time and went to the store... or if the store didn't have it, you either bought something else, went to a different store, or ordered it from the store and waited. NOW, go to Amazon or Ebay, click a few buttons, and in a day or so, it's yours. You don't even have to leave your room. Want to talk to someone? In the old days, you either waited until you got home... and spoke to them IF they were home too, or you found a pay phone, and again spoke to them if they were home, too. Now, you can reach anyone anytime, anywhere. Just pull your cell phone out and call. They have one, too. People are not used to gratification delay, so when they are told "no, wait", it contradicts everything that they usually do. Hence, what happened in the OP's article.
    Gonna have to call BS on that one. If this were the case, we would have this same story repeating itself all across the country. But, we don't.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Capitalism is an ideology that promotes being selfish. Why you'd be surprised that people would act selfishly is beyond me.
    Lol !!

    Its " Capitalism's '' fault ...

    Wow.

    The reality is some people are just too immature to handle Capitalism. The dame type of " Capitalism " is being applied at the Wallmart in my city.

    We don't have problems like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I agree, this is what liberalism brings, an air of self-importance and entitlement that everyone owes you something and you have no responsibility to anyone but yourself.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Those who have gone the ideological route have, as usual, no clue and refuse to challenge themselves with really examining the issue. From what I've seen, this is not about ideology at all. It's about current technology.

    In this day and age, with technology as it is, we live in a time where one practically NEVER has to delay gratification. Want to watch a specific movie? In the old days, you waited until it came to the TV. Now, you have on demand services all over the place? Want to buy something? In the old days, you waited until you had time and went to the store... or if the store didn't have it, you either bought something else, went to a different store, or ordered it from the store and waited. NOW, go to Amazon or Ebay, click a few buttons, and in a day or so, it's yours. You don't even have to leave your room. Want to talk to someone? In the old days, you either waited until you got home... and spoke to them IF they were home too, or you found a pay phone, and again spoke to them if they were home, too. Now, you can reach anyone anytime, anywhere. Just pull your cell phone out and call. They have one, too. People are not used to gratification delay, so when they are told "no, wait", it contradicts everything that they usually do. Hence, what happened in the OP's article.
    And this instant gratification issue becomes a problem in a lot of businesses who create custom products to customer specifications.

    I've literally had customers to ask me if we had their custom made items on my shelf for immediate delivery. Not too long ago I repeated a customer's question, just to make sure that I was understanding what he was asking: "so you are asking me if we already have a box of your custom printed business cards that you haven't actually ordered yet". Once I phrased it like that, he understood how silly his question was.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Gonna have to call BS on that one. If this were the case, we would have this same story repeating itself all across the country. But, we don't.
    Maybe not to this extreme, but we see people complaining about stuff like this all the time. It's pervasive and sometimes explodes, though the explosions are not so common. The issue of delayed gratification is, though. It's societal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Sounds like some liberals got out of order.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Gonna have to call BS on that one. If this were the case, we would have this same story repeating itself all across the country. But, we don't.
    What are you talking about? the best I can tell, this story is repeating itself all over the country. It may not make the news, and it may not be people trying to break into a closed Walmart or rioting because Walmart was closing for a holiday, but it is happening. People make unreasonable demands of businesses every day.

    I've had customers to tell me that we HAD to accept their order, "because you are a business and you can't discriminate" (although our refusal to accept their order had nothing to do with discrimination at all). These days some people can't seem to accept "sorry, that's not a product we offer", or "sorry, we are not open on weekends".

    If we have to wait some something, we tend to lose interest in acquiring it, but if we can immediately acquire it, particularly if our interest in it is just a whim, we are much more likely to make the purchase.

    I get customers in my shop every day who are expressing an interest in a particular item, but as soon as we tell them that it will be tomorrow or next week before it will be ready, they seem to loose interest, and say something like "OK, I will think about it then" and leave.

    It's unfortunate that I don't have a way to instantly create their custom designed and manufactured item, but most everything we make is a multiple step process, and often involves us having the raw materials shipped in.

    Twenty five years ago, when I first started in my industry, this was never an issue. People realized that it took time to create custom products. These day's, more and more, people just assume that we have some sort of magic machine to make them, and we just say "machine, make this item" and it pops out, with no human labor necessary.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    What are you talking about? the best I can tell, this story is repeating itself all over the country. If we have to wait some something, we tend to lose interest in acquiring it, but if we can immediately acquire it, particularly if our interest in it is just a whim, we are much more likely to make the purchase.

    I get customers in my shop every day who are expressing an interest in a particular item, but as soon as we tell them that it will be tomorrow or next week before it will be ready, they seem to loose interest, and say something like "OK, I will think about it then" and leave.

    It's unfortunate that I don't have a way to instantly create their custom designed and manufactured item, but most everything we make is a multiple step process, and often involves us having the raw materials shipped in.

    Twenty five years ago, when I first started in my industry, this was never an issue. People realized that it took time to create custom products. These day's, more and more, people just assume that we have some sort of magic machine to make them, and we just say "machine, make this item" and it pops out, with no human labor necessary.
    Surely you can see the difference between getting upset or losing interest, and becoming violent.

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