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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because they are agreeing to work for that amount. If someone was willing to pay them more, they could go work for someone else. You are only worth as much as someone is willing to pay you and not a penny more.
    Oh, so if I can get a slave then I'm all set then. That guy is ****ing worthless.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Oh, so if I can get a slave then I'm all set then. That guy is ****ing worthless.
    So long as they agree to it and nobody is willing to pay them more, sure. How else do you determine someone's value to an employer?
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How do you know everyone is getting paid their value?
    Your labor is worth whatever the other party in the transcation is willing to buy it for. That does not mean however you couldn't find a better deal if you were to sell your labor to someone else.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So long as they agree to it and nobody is willing to pay them more, sure. How else do you determine someone's value to an employer?
    I think liberals base it on fairness. Though I haven't figured out how that works as any sort of tool that can be used to determine value.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I think liberals base it on fairness. Though I haven't figured out how that works as any sort of tool that can be used to determine value.
    There's no such thing as fairness without equality. Since people have different skills and different levels of ability, they are not all equal, hence it is absurd to pretend that it is fair to anyone to just expect them all to make the same amount of money, regardless of their skills.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So long as they agree to it and nobody is willing to pay them more, sure. How else do you determine someone's value to an employer?
    I like the idea, but I don't think I could stomach it.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Your labor is worth whatever the other party in the transcation is willing to buy it for. That does not mean however you couldn't find a better deal if you were to sell your labor to someone else.
    So historically, labor rates were always correct?
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    This is a fine post and you are a very good thinker (a luxury around here). I was asking a loaded question of someone who was purposefully misleading his opponent... You and I both know that to the right-wing entitlements; and said thinking, are not about behavior, but this alleged "redistribution of wealth" nonsense that is all about the welfare state.
    Well, I don't know that at all...It is behavior that drives redistribution. And further, I don't think it is nonsense at all. While I am all for helping those that are down, our current social welfare system is not only bloated, but inefficient at rooting out fraud. How long do you think a society can afford to take care of nearly half of its citizenry while they produce nothing?

    Now SS: here's how a pension system works: what you contribute; dependent upon agreement / law, is what you take out when you meet the age requirements etc... The Central States Conference of Teamsters Pension Fund is way underfunded - because - population wise, the number of contributors is / was relatively small compared to my group: The Western Conference of Teamsters. I will be long gone, as will my family when that fund comes close to running out. The Central States has suffered massive layoffs and closures do to predatory competition. Therefore, there are a much smaller number contributing members; paying on those who are drawing....
    SS is NOT a pension, and wasn't supposed to be ever. It was, as far as I understand, supposed to be a supplement to retirement savings. It has however, become many peoples sole retirement income, while the COLA goes up, the contributor pool decreases. Primarily because the investment involved only returns 1% or less over the course of years...We'd be much better off had we just put the money in the stock market and taken our chances...Oh, and don't give me that crap of the recent crash BS. The market has traditionally paid out over 8% even with the downturns.

    Now, does it occur to you that there are much fewer people paying into the SS system, also due to predatory practices and Wall Streets need to control those funds so that -they - can skim a nickle off of every dime that passes through the system. I know you now what capital means, so I won't go into that. But have you noticed the heavy marketing of private retirement savings against a backdrop of huge unemployment in this country.
    No, the two are separate. Unless the government is investing in the stock market with our money, and only giving us the scraps...Which I know you know better...Try as you might Jet, you are projecting an anti capitalist screed that would in real world realization fail miserably....We may not have a perfect system in this country, but it is among the best in the world.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I like the idea, but I don't think I could stomach it.
    That's because you only react emotionally and not rationally. If people want to better their lot in life, they need to earn it, not just have their hand out and expect to be handed it.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's because you only react emotionally and not rationally. If people want to better their lot in life, they need to earn it, not just have their hand out and expect to be handed it.
    That's true. Slave labor is a choice. Pass the word on.
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