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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

    And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.

    If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it? Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship? What's all this BS about entitlements?
    Sorry if you don't understand the language. It is not restricted to government programs but more broadly a sense of being that many in today's society share. It's reflective of a "me first, me now" attitude. The conditions described in the OP on this thread is a perfect illustration.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sorry if you don't understand the language. It is not restricted to government programs but more broadly a sense of being that many in today's society share. It's reflective of a "me first, me now" attitude. The conditions described in the OP on this thread is a perfect illustration.
    Understanding the language is not a problem at all, for some however, speaking it can be difficult. It seems then, there is a clear difference... delineating the two might be helpful, in cases like this. I can't promise anything, but I'm sure you get the point.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yea
    selfish assholes have only been around in recent times
    got it
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    Never said that, so that is YOUR addition....You might want to address what I say rather than what you want me to say to make your argument easier....
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

    And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.

    In the broader sense it is the feeling that what ever I want, or wish to do is my prerogative, regardless of what it costs someone else, or what it does to them...So, yeah, it can mean welfare, or it can mean some jerk cutting you off on the highway to get to the next exit regardless of whether its safe.

    If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it?

    Sure, but all reports today are that those collecting their SS benefits will exceed what they paid in a few times over. That comes from future contributors, at some point it will go broke, then what?

    Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship?
    Who the heck ever told you that education was free? It is paid for through property, and other taxes. Now I understand with nearly half the country not paying any net taxes, and if you are in that part of the country then people like me are paying your share.

    What's all this BS about entitlements?
    No BS to it...as explained above.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    In the broader sense it is the feeling that what ever I want, or wish to do is my prerogative, regardless of what it costs someone else, or what it does to them...So, yeah, it can mean welfare, or it can mean some jerk cutting you off on the highway to get to the next exit regardless of whether its safe.




    Sure, but all reports today are that those collecting their SS benefits will exceed what they paid in a few times over. That comes from future contributors, at some point it will go broke, then what?



    Who the heck ever told you that education was free? It is paid for through property, and other taxes. Now I understand with nearly half the country not paying any net taxes, and if you are in that part of the country then people like me are paying your share.



    No BS to it...as explained above.
    This is a fine post and you are a very good thinker (a luxury around here). I was asking a loaded question of someone who was purposefully misleading his opponent... You and I both know that to the right-wing entitlements; and said thinking, are not about behavior, but this alleged "redistribution of wealth" nonsense that is all about the welfare state.

    Now SS: here's how a pension system works: what you contribute; dependent upon agreement / law, is what you take out when you meet the age requirements etc... The Central States Conference of Teamsters Pension Fund is way underfunded - because - population wise, the number of contributors is / was relatively small compared to my group: The Western Conference of Teamsters. I will be long gone, as will my family when that fund comes close to running out. The Central States has suffered massive layoffs and closures do to predatory competition. Therefore, there are a much smaller number contributing members; paying on those who are drawing....

    Now, does it occur to you that there are much fewer people paying into the SS system, also due to predatory practices and Wall Streets need to control those funds so that -they - can skim a nickle off of every dime that passes through the system. I know you now what capital means, so I won't go into that. But have you noticed the heavy marketing of private retirement savings against a backdrop of huge unemployment in this country.

    Smelling a rat? I am.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Understanding the language is not a problem at all, for some however, speaking it can be difficult. It seems then, there is a clear difference... delineating the two might be helpful, in cases like this. I can't promise anything, but I'm sure you get the point.

    de·lin·e·ate dəˈlinēˌāt/

    verb

    - describe or portray (something) precisely.

    "the law should delineate and prohibit behavior that is socially abhorrent"

    synonyms: describe, set forth/out, present, outline, sketch, depict, represent; More
    indicate the exact position of (a border or boundary).
    synonyms: outline, trace, block in, mark (out/off), delimit
    "a section delineated in red pen"
    How clever. However, since you made your view quite clear in your first response to me, any elucidation I may provide you would fall on deaf ears and thus be a waste of my time.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    What entitlements? I keep hearing this "entitlement" thing coming from the right.

    And don't tell me entitled to park in the middle of the street 'er something like that.

    If you save for a retirement through social security, aren't you entitled to receive it? Aren't your children entitled to a free education as a benefit of citizenship? What's all this BS about entitlements?
    Why do you think you're entitled to someone else's earnings? Because the government took your property to pay other people while you were working? Is that it?

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    More empty rhetoric. You guys need a new set of buzzwords or something.
    If it was empty rhetoric you would think what people think they are owed wouldn't be so apparent in politics.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do you think you're entitled to someone else's earnings? Because the government took your property to pay other people while you were working? Is that it?
    How do you know everyone is getting paid their value?
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How do you know everyone is getting paid their value?
    Because they are agreeing to work for that amount. If someone was willing to pay them more, they could go work for someone else. You are only worth as much as someone is willing to pay you and not a penny more.
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