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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Selfishness has been raised to a virtual art form. Normal decadence is no longer enough, greed and disgusting decadence and selfish behavior has almost become the norm. Why think yourself lucky that a company and the good people who work there have sacrificed part of the christmas eve time so that you can do your shopping after most regular people have joined their loved ones at home for a nice meal and the enjoyment of being with those loved ones.

    But maybe you had a job that made it impossible to shop until 8pm on chrismas eve, it is not like you could have done that shopping in any of the days leading up to xmas eve but still, needs must prevail, arrogance must be adhered to and you are the only person that matters on xmas eve, not the employees who worked a long holiday season and yearn to be with their loved ones for the holiday season. Noooooo, you and you alone are the one that matters and silly people who cannot see or understand that.

    I live in a country where church and unions had made the Sunday into a no shopping day. But with the rejuvenation of the employer/employee relationship making it possible to not think of Saturday and Sunday as the 2 days in the week in which you have to be off (Dutch law says employees must have 2 days off in a week and those 2 days have to be consecutive). With cities/municipalities now being free to choice for themselves whether or not the shops may be open on Sunday, it has been a new day for Dutch shoppers.

    When I was younger, shopping for groceries was done from 9am to 6pm on Monday to Friday and from 9am to 5pm on a Saturday and shops were closed on Sunday.

    Nowadays, supermarkets are open from 8am to 8pm on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, from 8am to 10pm on Thursday and Friday and from 8am to 8pm on a Saturday. And with the added bonus of most supermarkets also being open on Sunday (differs from city to city but normally from 12am to 5/6pm is normal. And we as customers are happy with that change, it makes us free to decide on when we want to do the shopping. In the US most customers have been blessed with liberal opening times from shops, but at some point the people should learn to be happy with what they have. Have a bit of compassion with your fellow human beings who work in shops, allow them to have the same joy of Christmas eve as most other people get to enjoy and close at a regular/reasonable time.

    Selfishness as said has been raised to a virtual frigging art form but enough is enough. People have to learn to be a bit less selfish and that will be to the betterment of the entire human population/society.
    there are a few points I could nit pick, but over all I agree with your post peter...Merry Christmas.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

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    I think that's "flash robs" not flash mobs. When my kid worked at a convenience store they got flash robbed several times a week.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

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    there are a few points I could nit pick, but over all I agree with your post peter...Merry Christmas.
    And the same to you, merry Christmas.

    I also do not understand why some people have an issue with the "happy holidays" instead of merry Christmas or vice versa (to all those nasty atheists who refuse to use the greeting with Christ in the word).

    I am an atheist, I do not believe in Christ son of god or in god and the bible, but why should I bleeping care if someone wishes me a merry Christmas? I wish people merry Christmas too. Because this time is Christmas, who cares if you are a muslim, atheist, jew, christian, etc. etc., if someone wishes you a merry Christmas then have the baubles to do the same.

    So to everyone here, merry Christmas, merry Xmas, happy holidays, gelukkig kerstfeest, feliz navidad, frohe weihnachten, Joyeux Noël or in Australian "have a bloody good Christmas". Who gives a crap how you call it, just wish it on others and more importantly, live it.

    Sorry J-mac, did not want to get on a high horse and it does not strictly have to do with your post but I still had to say it.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And the same to you, merry Christmas.

    I also do not understand why some people have an issue with the "happy holidays" instead of merry Christmas or vice versa (to all those nasty atheists who refuse to use the greeting with Christ in the word).

    I am an atheist, I do not believe in Christ son of god or in god and the bible, but why should I bleeping care if someone wishes me a merry Christmas? I wish people merry Christmas too. Because this time is Christmas, who cares if you are a muslim, atheist, jew, christian, etc. etc., if someone wishes you a merry Christmas then have the baubles to do the same.

    So to everyone here, merry Christmas, merry Xmas, happy holidays, gelukkig kerstfeest, feliz navidad, frohe weihnachten, Joyeux Noël or in Australian "have a bloody good Christmas". Who gives a crap how you call it, just wish it on others and more importantly, live it.

    Sorry J-mac, did not want to get on a high horse and it does not strictly have to do with your post but I still had to say it.
    Whether you celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday, a commercial extravaganza, a time to gather family, some combination of the above, or not at all, may you have a Merry Christmas, all of you!
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    If the trend is to defy authority, like with the protests against the police, it is nothing to defy the management at a Walmart.

    I think this is a bad road the country is going down.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If the trend is to defy authority, like with the protests against the police, it is nothing to defy the management at a Walmart.

    I think this is a bad road the country is going down.
    Thats exactly right.

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Those who have gone the ideological route have, as usual, no clue and refuse to challenge themselves with really examining the issue. From what I've seen, this is not about ideology at all. It's about current technology.

    In this day and age, with technology as it is, we live in a time where one practically NEVER has to delay gratification. Want to watch a specific movie? In the old days, you waited until it came to the TV. Now, you have on demand services all over the place? Want to buy something? In the old days, you waited until you had time and went to the store... or if the store didn't have it, you either bought something else, went to a different store, or ordered it from the store and waited. NOW, go to Amazon or Ebay, click a few buttons, and in a day or so, it's yours. You don't even have to leave your room. Want to talk to someone? In the old days, you either waited until you got home... and spoke to them IF they were home too, or you found a pay phone, and again spoke to them if they were home, too. Now, you can reach anyone anytime, anywhere. Just pull your cell phone out and call. They have one, too. People are not used to gratification delay, so when they are told "no, wait", it contradicts everything that they usually do. Hence, what happened in the OP's article.
    Hmm, so you're saying I should have delayed gratification by not skyping with my children on the other side of the country this Christmas, I should have waited for the ex to send the telegram (FYI she never sends me ****). Interesting opinion you have there.

    I'm about to paid in an hour and a half because my employer takes full advantage of computers and has a purely paperless payroll. I suppose you would want me to wait for a paper check to come in the mail? And since pay is issued on Fridays, and it's a holiday so pay wouldn't be issued until Monday, and it would take 4-5 days to get from corporate HQ to my PO box, are you saying I'm somehow selfish taking my pay this Friday instead of next Friday?

    I'm just not seeing any room for people of any age to complain. We're all alive today and we all have access to the same things.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Hmm, so you're saying I should have delayed gratification by not skyping with my children on the other side of the country this Christmas, I should have waited for the ex to send the telegram (FYI she never sends me ****). Interesting opinion you have there.
    Jerry... I think you know better than to make absurd assumptions like that from a post that in no way makes that claim or anything close to it. There are many things that technological advances have done to enhance our lives and society. And there are some where it has hurt one or both. I was pointing out an instance of the latter.
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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Jerry... I think you know better than to make absurd assumptions like that from a post that in no way makes that claim or anything close to it. There are many things that technological advances have done to enhance our lives and society. And there are some where it has hurt one or both. I was pointing out an instance of the latter.
    Please understand that I'm not angry here, I just literally have nothing to do for the next hour and this is kind of a pet peeve with me. How does being able to order something off of e-bay and have it in your hands the very next day harm you? Wouldn't harm depend on what you're ordering and why, and not on how easy it was for you get or how fast you got it?

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    Re: Walmart customers “unruly” after store closes, police called

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In bold. Then don't. This could, potentially be an interesting thread, discussing societal causes of behaviors such as this. It's a larger issue that permeates society. I see it as a gratification delay issue. Others have cited selfishness. Some have said lack of consequences. What do you think?
    I think it's all of these. Partly, it's what two successive "me generations" hath wrought, but you're right about what I call the fast-food mentality. And the loosening of societal strictures. People actually think it's okay to wear a t-shirt with a huge f-bomb on it out in public where children can see it, and they think nothing about sharing their most intimate business while yacking on their cells in a grocery store checkout line.

    Maybe we could begin with a little more regard for others. Another plus would not be categorizing those who behave badly as "liberals" or "conservatives": They're unique individuals who are solely and entirely responsible for what they say and do, and lean has little to do with it. Ill-bred, boorish behavior is YOUR choice.

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