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Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol[W:649]

Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

iacardsfan said:
Somebody feel off the crazy buss. I am not going to speak on why a state building was housing a religious display, but what I m going to speak on is religion. I am sorry, if you are so entrenched in your religion that seeing a dissenting one if so terrible that you must vandalize it, I pity you. I am not trying to offend anybody here, but I think we can all agree it needs to be toned down a bit at that point.
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This is one incident by one individual.
 
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countryboy said:
I thought atheism wasn't a religion.
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Satanism and atheism are different things. Satan is an essential element peculiar to the Christian religion.
 
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Ikari said:
Actually this thread is about a woman damaging a legal religious display. Are you saying the vandalism is justified and the woman should go unpunished?
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I think this woman should have a ruler lightly thumped across the back of her hand for getting caught.

I also think the next (GOP) president should give her a medal of freedom (freedom from satanic liberals in this case).
 
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Flamethrower said:
I think this woman should have a ruler lightly thumped across the back of her hand for getting caught.

I also think the next (GOP) president should give her a medal of freedom (freedom from satanic liberals in this case).
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So you're against religious freedom and feel aggressive acts against expression are justified. Interesting, though not surprising.
 
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Ikari said:
Satanism is
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The people with the display are atheists. We've already been over this, why are you feigning ignorance?
 
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countryboy said:
This is one incident by one individual.
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That is why I spoke only about this one instance. I didn't generalize about any religion, simply saying IF anybody was ever that wrapped up in whatever they practice that they need cannot stand the sight of an opposing religion they need to tone it down. I know a significant number of religious people that are civilized in the way they conduct themselves, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Satanism and atheism are different things. Satan is an essential element peculiar to the Christian religion.
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The people with the display don't believe in satan, they are atheists.
 
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countryboy said:
The people with the display don't believe in satan, they are atheists.
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The people with the Satanist nativity scene say they're Satanists.
 
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countryboy said:
The people with the display are atheists. We've already been over this, why are you feigning ignorance?
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That is what you claim, yet the display was a Satanist display which is a religion and was a sanctioned religious display by the local government. Do you disagree?
 
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Ikari said:
So you're against religious freedom and feel aggressive acts against expression are justified. Interesting, though not surprising.
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Again, if religious displays, prayer in public schools and whatnot WERE actually counter to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then the Founders and early government leaders would have had them abolished early on. They at least had a clue about what the laws really meant.

Unlike the libs and neo-coms that could care less the real meaning of the laws.
 
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Flamethrower said:
Again, if religious displays, prayer in public schools and whatnot WERE actually counter to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then the Founders and early government leaders would have had them abolished early on. They at least had a clue about what the laws really meant.

Unlike the libs and neo-coms that could care less the real meaning of the laws.
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That's not addressing anything I said. YOU dont believe in religious freedom. Here is a religious display that was vandalized and you're all for it. Woman should get a medal, you claim. YOU are again st religious expression. So maybe YOU should reevaluate whether or not religious display should be allowed on public property because it seems like YOU are again st the freedom.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
The people with the Satanist nativity scene say they're Satanists.
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So what. If I say I can bend spoons with my mind, does that mean I can?

Look them up, they do not believe in any supernatural being, their literature states that their use of the term "satanist" is a "metaphorical construct". Their only purpose is to antagonize people of faith, and force the removal of any and all religious symbolism from the public square. Do you make a habit of speaking from a position of ignorance?
 
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Ikari said:
That is what you claim, yet the display was a Satanist display which is a religion and was a sanctioned religious display by the local government. Do you disagree?
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So their own words don't matter? Yes, of course I disagree. They make no claims of religiosity, do you not believe them?
 
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countryboy said:
So their own words don't matter? Yes, of course I disagree. They make no claims of religiosity, do you not believe them?
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If I erect a manger scene, is it religious? If someone claims religion, can you say "nuh uh!"? If so, can you strip Scientology of its religion status? It's really the only one I really hate.
 
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Ikari said:
If I erect a manger scene, is it religious? If someone claims religion, can you say "nuh uh!"? If so, can you strip Scientology of its religion status? It's really the only one I really hate.
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If I say I do not believe in any supernatural being, would you call me religious?
 
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countryboy said:
So what. If I say I can bend spoons with my mind, does that mean I can?

Look them up, they do not believe in any supernatural being, their literature states that their use of the term "satanist" is a "metaphorical construct". Their only purpose is to antagonize people of faith, and force the removal of any and all religious symbolism from the public square. Do you make a habit of speaking from a position of ignorance?
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If you make such an easily falsifiable claim I will know you for a fool. Are you so skeptical of the other Nativity group's claim to be Christian?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
If you make such an easily falsifiable claim I will know you for a fool. Are you so skeptical of the other Nativity group's claim to be Christian?
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Okay, using literature from The Satanic Temple, prove my claim false.
 
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countryboy said:
If I say I do not believe in any supernatural being, would you call me religious?
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Likely not, but that would be by my own opinion. This was a Satanist display, Satanism I do believe is recognized as a religion, this was submitted and accepted as a display on public land by the local government. That is your starting point.

A woman vandalized it, acceptable or not? I believe you have stated it is not acceptable. Flamethrower says not only is it acceptable, but that the woman should get a medal as well. To which I argue that means he is against religious freedom as he thinks infringement upon expression is fine. And that's where we stand.
 
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You made a claim? You are defending the actions of a crazed religionista who attacked a legal Christmas display because she chose to be offended by the content.
 
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She vandalized someone's property.

I don't understand why this is even an issue.

Whether or not something offends you does not give you the right to vandalize it. It doesn't matter if it was a satanic display, a manger, or a santa claus spitting on Rudolph....if it was legally presented property and someone tore it up then that person is guilty of vandalizing said display and should be punished for such.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
You made a claim? You are defending the actions of a crazed religionista who attacked a legal Christmas display because she chose to be offended by the content.
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That is a verifiable lie. I have stated in this very thread the vandal was in the wrong. I have also posted an FAQ link from the very group that is the subject of the "satanist" display. Nothing I have said is false. You stated my claim was "easily falsifiable". Prove it.
 
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countryboy said:
This is one incident by one individual.
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This fact doesn't seem to compute with these people, nor does anyone disagree that what she did was wrong. They'll still sing from that hymnbook though.
 
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countryboy said:
That is a verifiable lie. I have stated in this very thread the vandal was in the wrong. I have also posted an FAQ link from the very group that is the subject of the "satanist" display. Nothing I have said is false. You stated my claim was "easily falsifiable". Prove it.
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You don't understand the meaning of falsifiable, and that was a reference to your spoonbending claim.
 
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