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Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol[W:649]

Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Hey Ikari, you sure you wanna stick to your position that Christian hatred is "exaggerated"? :roll:

No one hates christian, but some of us think that their hateful compulsion to mock others with their religious displays is silly

Why do christians hate other religions?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

No, are you for freedom of religion? Then you better be for freedom of ALL religions, or you are a hypocrite.

You just want the rules to apply to the religion you agree with. That is unamerican.

And it is cowardly.

Where did I state I was not in favor of freedom for all religions? Quote?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

If the stated purpose of TST is media attention, and removal of all religious displays from the public square, how is it not mockery?

By being an expression to pull attention to the overall act of allowing religious display on public land, not necessarily mocking another religion in and of itself.

You're the one who restricted it to only mockery, but that'sbjust your perception of this scenario, it may not be made to mock religion. Is that perception all that is necessary to legitimately infringe upon expression?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Where did I state I was not in favor of freedom for all religions? Quote?

If you aren't, then quit whining about the satanic display.

Either have all religions that want to display....or none.

Very easy if you actually think about it.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

By being an expression to pull attention to the overall act of allowing religious display on public land, not necessarily mocking another religion in and of itself.

You're the one who restricted it to only mockery, but that'sbjust your perception of this scenario, it may not be made to mock religion. Is that perception all that is necessary to legitimately infringe upon expression?

So you at least entertain the possibility that it could be mockery. Fair enough, I disagree, but fair enough.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Again, can you show me cases where the ACLU has actually defended any of these "communist" ideals? The overwhelming majority of their cases are with free speech and freedom of religion.

I haven't seen too many cases they've joined in on that include "confiscation of the properties of all emigrants and rebels."

The reason that the ACLU protected the speech of communists was that the American government had a fairly strong bias towards prosecuting communists during that period.

The aspect you're not appreciating is that by protecting the most offensive speech, or the most unpleasant of religions, is that it means the rights of everyone else to say or believe what they wish are that much safer. For a person with the user name "Flame Thrower" that should be doubly appreciated.

The reason why the ACLU protects communists is because the ACLU goals are mostly communist. Free speech was just an excuse to allow their fellow-traveler Communists to stay active. As the US still barely clings to the US Constitution, the ACLU has not had a confiscation of rebel properties case to deal with. This happen with Reconstuction, but the Communist ACLU didn't arrive until the 20th century.

So bad had been the ACLU in aiding and abetting American communists that various legislative committees, federal and state, considered whether it was a communist front. The 1943 California Senate Fact-Finding Committee on Un-American Activities reported that the ACLU "may be definitely classed as a communist front." The committee added that "at least 90 percent of its [the ACLU's] efforts are expended on behalf of communists who come into conflict with the law." That 90-percent figure was consistent with a major report produced by Congress a decade earlier, January 17, 1931.

The ACLU's Not-So-Holy Trinity | The American Spectator!

Now as the agenda of all commies is for absolute control of public education by the government and party, one of their most famous cases was Brown vs Board of Education. This case was vital to destroying the freedom of US citizens to run their own school districts, allow school prayer and control the content of what was taught.

You are either a big fan of the ACLU, or a memeber. Sad.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

So you at least entertain the possibility that it could be mockery. Fair enough, I disagree, but fair enough.

It could be mockery as well. I can't claim to know what theists think. I just want to know if perception is all that is necessary to legitimately infringe upon expression.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

If you aren't, then quit whining about the satanic display.

Either have all religions that want to display....or none.

Very easy if you actually think about it.
I will express myself as I see fit. Perhaps you should look in a mirror occasionally. No group "whines" more than the modern lib.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

It could be mockery as well. I can't claim to know what theists think. I just want to know if perception is all that is necessary to legitimately infringe upon expression.

I never suggested infringing on expression.

FYI, the TST is an atheist group, they are not theists, they are not even satanists.

FAQ |
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

I will express myself as I see fit. Perhaps you should look in a mirror occasionally. No group "whines" more than the modern lib.

Not an actual answer from you. Just more blather.

You seem to only want religious displays that you agree with. Too bad, there is no state religion here.

Start acting like an American.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

I never suggested infringing on expression.

FYI, the TST is an atheist group, they are not theists, they are not even satanists.

FAQ |

Then I would think that they are completely wasting their time. Religious displays are fine so long as it's open to all. Part of being an atheist is that I don't have to concern myself with this stuff anymore. So long as the rights and liberties of the individual are upheld, peoe should be free to do as they like.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

I never suggested infringing on expression.

FYI, the TST is an atheist group, they are not theists, they are not even satanists.

FAQ |

Is everybody you dislike pretending to be somebody else? Atheists, commies, modern libs.....
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Not an actual answer from you. Just more blather.

You seem to only want religious displays that you agree with. Too bad, there is no state religion here.

Start acting like an American.

It's not my problem if you have trouble with perception. Maybe hypnotherapy would help. :shrug:
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Is everybody you dislike pretending to be somebody else? Atheists, commies, modern libs.....

It is their own claim. Did you read the link? Do you always comment from a position of ignorance? Oh wait, you're a lib, never mind.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

They have admitted the only purpose of the displays are to, "counteract the Nativity scene".

And? Maybe mocking you is their religion. Who gives you the right to tell them how they celebrate it? Christians wanted the government to be involved in religion but only their religion, so now you get to enjoy the fruits of it.

Isn't equality nice?

It is their own claim. Did you read the link? Do you always comment from a position of ignorance? Oh wait, you're a lib, never mind.

That's the problem with involving the government in religion. You aren't going to like all of the other religions people choose to involve.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

It is their own claim. Did you read the link? Do you always comment from a position of ignorance? Oh wait, you're a lib, never mind.

Even if all that was true, I'm not sure it changes anything. Vandalism is vandalism, yes?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Then I would think that they are completely wasting their time. Religious displays are fine so long as it's open to all. Part of being an atheist is that I don't have to concern myself with this stuff anymore. So long as the rights and liberties of the individual are upheld, peoe should be free to do as they like.

Then why are we arguing? Lol.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

It is their own claim. Did you read the link? Do you always comment from a position of ignorance? Oh wait, you're a lib, never mind.

You're the only one who thinks it's important why they are putting up the display.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

And? Maybe mocking you is their religion. Who gives you the right to tell them how they celebrate it? Christians wanted the government to be involved in religion but only their religion, so now you get to enjoy the fruits of it.

It's not. Maybe you should educate yourself about TST. I posted a link, but since you're such a nice polite fellow, here it is again, just for you. FAQ |
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Then why are we arguing? Lol.

Just arguing for freedom and equality.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

You're the only one who thinks it's important why they are putting up the display.

Right, I'm sure I'm the only one. :roll:
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

It's not my problem if you have trouble with perception. Maybe hypnotherapy would help. :shrug:

Again, you say nothing.

Face it, you are a hypocrite. You only want freedom for YOUR religion. That stuff don't fly in America, don't like it? Move to a nation that has your particular bent of religion as its state religion. Otherwise, just accept what freedom of (and from) religion is in this country. And quit your endless whining. Nothing more tiresome than hypocritical bleating. Knock it off, suck it up and start acting like an American.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Right, I'm sure I'm the only one. :roll:

What does it matter what you and others think? Less you are saying that your perception is legitimate grounds to infringe upon expression.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Again, you say nothing.

Face it, you are a hypocrite. You only want freedom for YOUR religion. That stuff don't fly in America, don't like it? Move to a nation that has your particular bent of religion as its state religion. Otherwise, just accept what freedom of (and from) religion is in this country. And quit your endless whining. Nothing more tiresome than hypocritical bleating. Knock it off, suck it up and start acting like an American.

Face it, you have no idea what you are talking about. Contrary to popular lib mythology, a lie repeated ad nauseam, is still a lie.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

What does it matter what you and others think? Less you are saying that your perception is legitimate grounds to infringe upon expression.

Dude, we've already established that's not my position.
 
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