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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

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    Right-wingers always turn on the constitution when it grants rights to those they dislike.
    Why do they hate america?

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Why do they hate america?
    In this thread they are attacking one of the core principles on which this country was founded. In the next thread, they'll be ranting about how liberalism is destroying the core principles of America.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In this thread they are attacking one of the core principles on which this country was founded. In the next thread, they'll be ranting about how liberalism is destroying the core principles of America.
    I know, its amusing.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

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    Their right to free speech, to pray, to exercise their religious beliefs---and especially, the popular faith of their communites has been stripped away.
    Sorry, they never had the rights you describe in the first place. Rights are inherently limited. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and say it was free speech. A doctor can't get on his knees in the middle of an operation and claim a right to pray. People don't get to preach at work and pretend it's an exercise of their beliefs. Actions have consequences. People don't get to do things just because they feel like doing things and not have those consequences. Has nobody ever explained reality to you?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    What exactly is bad about (you already discussed section 1)

    2. the right to vote
    3. senators only having one job
    4. the country's credit rating

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    Section 2 discriminates against injuns.

    Sections 3 &4 discriminated against Southern Whites.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Section 2 discriminates against injuns.

    Sections 3 &4 discriminated against Southern Whites.

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    injuns? really?

    as for 3 and 4, i need a modern example of how this is discriminatory. Thats just civil war era stuff.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right-wingers always turn on the constitution when it grants rights to those they dislike.
    Beyond the Bill of Rights, there have been many bad Amendments besides the 14th.

    Do you think Prohibition was all that great?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sorry, they never had the rights you describe in the first place. Rights are inherently limited. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and say it was free speech. A doctor can't get on his knees in the middle of an operation and claim a right to pray. People don't get to preach at work and pretend it's an exercise of their beliefs. Actions have consequences. People don't get to do things just because they feel like doing things and not have those consequences. Has nobody ever explained reality to you?
    This isn't about yelling "Fire, Fire."

    It's about individuals AND their communities having the right to free speech, that your Neo-Com friends in the courts took away.

    For course local schools and courthouses and state captials had the right to pray and to have religious displays for over a hundred years before these rights were stripped away.

    If a boss or business owner wants to preach Jesus or Buddah or Mohammad---let them. A worker can go elsewhere, and the public can boycott their products or services.

    This kind of freedom folks such as you can never accept or tolerate.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    injuns? really?

    as for 3 and 4, i need a modern example of how this is discriminatory. Thats just civil war era stuff.
    We can't have injuns discriminated against---cause I'm 1/64th injun myself.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    This isn't about yelling "Fire, Fire."

    It's about individuals AND their communities having the right to free speech, that your Neo-Com friends in the courts took away.

    For course local schools and courthouses and state captials had the right to pray and to have religious displays for over a hundred years before these rights were stripped away.

    If a boss or business owner wants to preach Jesus or Buddah or Mohammad---let them. A worker can go elsewhere, and the public can boycott their products or services.

    This kind of freedom folks such as you can never accept or tolerate.
    In their own businesses, they can do whatever they want and anyone who wants to go find somewhere else to shop is welcome to. Nobody is required by law to go to those shops. School is a different thing, kids aren't there by choice, they can't just opt to go somewhere else, they have to go to school and therefore, people can't do whatever they want.

    And I'm about the farthest thing from a neo-con as you can get. Don't be an ass.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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