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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    While I don't agree with the woman who lost it, regarding the action she took, how is it that in every other case you are in here arguing this morphing definition of "democracy" to suit any argument, yet when it is Christianity, all of the sudden that disappears?
    Because I believe we need some fundamental protections for everyone, as a complement to fundamental liberties. Protecting citizens from the encroachment of theocracy is valuable to everyone, even if they don't appreciate it until they discover Satanic displays at their local public center.

    The compromise isn't to give in to the minority Satanists or the majority Christians, but rather give preference to neither, just as our Constitution directed.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So's Christianity, but we have to put up with that too.
    Lol, look at all the usual suspects liking this post.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Yeah, and I'm a T-rex. Christianity is the religion of child molesters and drunks.
    Lol, what an idiotic thing to say. Do you have any stats to prove that "Christians" drink and molest children any more per capita than non-Christians? No? Didn't think so.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If America is a secular country, why are most people religious? If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?
    Walt Disney was a devout Christian, and yet Mickey Mouse is a secular cartoon character. There is a difference between the creations that we produce as a society and the facets of our individual belief systems.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    #$religion, I like it. This is the sort of mess you get into when you try to paint the whole country with a broad brush. It would be better if Unrepresented had said the government was secular, as that would be both on-topic and true.
    I would agree. America is so many things, we have countless sub cultures, countless historical mythologies, countless institutions, etc.

    I think Amelie Durkheim's Social Identity theory (modified a bit for nations, and I am willing to bet ecofarm, if he sees this will chime in with some sociological term for it) best fits the description of this country.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Because I believe we need some fundamental protections for everyone, as a complement to fundamental liberties.
    The liberties are enough...I no more want government to enforce the absence of religious display, anymore than I want them to endorse them.

    Protecting citizens from the encroachment of theocracy is valuable to everyone
    That's just silly, we are no more going to become a Theocracy, than we are a secular nation. It's foolish to believe that we need Government to "protect us" from beliefs.

    even if they don't appreciate it until they discover Satanic displays at their local public center.
    Ah, so an all encompassing government control is just fine with you, and you see opposition to that as just people that need to be forced until they see how good it is eh?

    The atheists, and Satanists do things like this IMHO, not because they truly want some sort of equality in the public sphere, but because they think it will upset people, and jab a finger in their eye. Pretty vile if you ask me...

    The compromise isn't to give in to the minority Satanists or the majority Christians, but rather give preference to neither, just as our Constitution directed.
    Allowing a display of a nativity scene, or a Menorah during the holidays is not "showing preference". Government does that by making laws. But, courts have ruled that the minority can tyrannize the majority with the force of Government. I don't believe that was the intent of the Constitution.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The liberties are enough...I no more want government to enforce the absence of religious display, anymore than I want them to endorse them.



    That's just silly, we are no more going to become a Theocracy, than we are a secular nation. It's foolish to believe that we need Government to "protect us" from beliefs.



    Ah, so an all encompassing government control is just fine with you, and you see opposition to that as just people that need to be forced until they see how good it is eh?

    The atheists, and Satanists do things like this IMHO, not because they truly want some sort of equality in the public sphere, but because they think it will upset people, and jab a finger in their eye. Pretty vile if you ask me...



    Allowing a display of a nativity scene, or a Menorah during the holidays is not "showing preference". Government does that by making laws. But, courts have ruled that the minority can tyrannize the majority with the force of Government. I don't believe that was the intent of the Constitution.
    So you are saying that a religious display by a minority is tyrannizing the majority

    But a religious display by the majority is not tyrannizing minorities?
    Conservatives believe that the government is incompetent, and seek to elect people who will ensure it is

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So you are saying that a religious display by a minority is tyrannizing the majority

    But a religious display by the majority is not tyrannizing minorities?
    Yeah, wasn't j-mac's post a bit Orwellian-1984-double speak?

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So you are saying that a religious display by a minority is tyrannizing the majority

    But a religious display by the majority is not tyrannizing minorities?
    Hi there LT, long time no see...Merry Christmas...

    No, that's not what I am saying. But, these groups aren't out for any realistic recognition of their beliefs, rather they are there to specifically stick a finger in the eye of the rest of us....
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hi there LT, long time no see...Merry Christmas...

    No, that's not what I am saying. But, these groups aren't out for any realistic recognition of their beliefs, rather they are there to specifically stick a finger in the eye of the rest of us....
    Really? If you get upset when you see a non-christian display, that says more about you than about the motives of the people putting up the display.

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