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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Thank you for your info. Given that about 90% of the time the ACLU defends communists over Nazis and Jehovah's Witnessess, and that they similarly go after Christians using the poor excuse of seperation of church and state---the ACLU would be 90% pro-communist.

    As you support the actions of the ACLU---one could determine a similar content in your political agenda.

    If you only have the ridiculous, narrow view that real communism is only about economic totalitarian issues, then no, you would not be a true communist.

    However, if you support the majority of communist tenets, then it would be fair to assume one is mostly a communist.

    BTW, which of the 10 tenets of communism do you not support?
    Gad, are you a reincarnation of Joe McCarthy, seeing communists behind every tree? As much as you accuse others of being communist, my only conclusion can be that you are throwing up a smoke screen to hide the fact that YOU are the communists.

    I do support the ACLU. I don't care if they defend communists or tea partiers because they are always defending our constitution.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I think the office involved--the state A.G., the county D.A., or whatever--should just decline to prosecute this woman.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So another vote against religious freedom.
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    What do you mean by that? Who, other than yourself, set you up as the sole arbiter of the boundaries of religious freedom in the U.S.? Any time you want to debate anything about First Amendment religious freedoms with me, come ahead.
    Count me in with Ikari as saying you voted against religious freedom when you said the woman who vandalized an exhibit shouldn't be prosecuted.

    UNLESS you say anyone who vandalizes any exhibit shouldn't be prosecuted.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're willing to excuse force and crime against free expression of religion. How does that make you within boundaries of freedom? I fear you intolerant type don't quite understand the full ramifications of freedom.
    I don't give a damn what you fear. Keep insulting me personally, and I will report you.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I don't give a damn what you fear. Keep insulting me personally, and I will report you.
    Is that all you got? I came at you with an argument from rights, and the best you have is "I will report you"? Poor show. How about instead of intolerant arguments, you make one based on rights and liberties? Says a lot for your arguments if you cannot counter with anything other than deflection.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    And the idiotic satanists suffered the consequences. Your point?
    Actually the consequence was suffered only by the stupid intolerant woman.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'll be curious to see if these Satanists show up at Ramadan.
    Will there be a "Ramadan display" and if so what is it usually?

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    luckily the founders were smarter than that.



    But if you consider real freedom to be the ability to oppress ideas or group you dislike, then I guess the concept of freedom is lost on you.
    Most reasonable people, like the Founders, even the one's who weren't all that Christian, didn't feel threatened by a Christmas tree or a nativity scene on steps of the local city hall.

    Tyrannical Leftists are of course going to dislike them.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Most reasonable people, like the Founders, even the one's who weren't all that Christian, didn't feel threatened by a Christmas tree or a nativity scene on steps of the local city hall.

    Tyrannical Leftists are of course going to dislike them.
    yeah, i don't see the founders tearing up random stuff...

    they were more civilized than that lady

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Count me in with Ikari as saying you voted against religious freedom when you said the woman who vandalized an exhibit shouldn't be prosecuted.

    UNLESS you say anyone who vandalizes any exhibit shouldn't be prosecuted.
    I don't believe anything in the First Amendment requires any government to recognize any nonsense at all as a religion. The notion that we have to let every bunch of nuts that comes down the pike do whatever they please, in the name of tolerance, is crap. The fact is these nuts are hostile to Christianity and pull stunts like this one as part of a strategy of purging it from this country's public life through intimidation. They get some lawyer and threaten to sue if their demands are not met, and all too often, the locals lose their guts and give in to the threat, rather than spend the money to fight it out in court.

    The Supreme Court's decisions on religious displays in public places are complex and not particularly coherent, but they make clear that not every single group that claims to be religious has to be accommodated, in every situation. Pleasant Grove City, Utah, v. Summum, for example, a 2009 decision, concerned the right of the Summum religion to put up in a city park a monument containing the "Seven Aphorisms of Summum." The monument was to be similar physically to a monument containing the Ten Commandments that the Fraternal Order of Eagles had put up in the park several decades earlier.

    Pleasant Grove didn't want the damned thing in its park--and it got its way. The Court held that the city's decisions about which monuments to accept for display in the park were government speech, and as such not a First Amendment concern. The city was free to accept or reject a private monument for display as it pleased, as long as it could not reasonably be seen as endorsing a religion by accepting a particular monument.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Most reasonable people, like the Founders, even the one's who weren't all that Christian, didn't feel threatened by a Christmas tree or a nativity scene on steps of the local city hall.

    Tyrannical Leftists are of course going to dislike them.
    Though it seems that perhaps you feel threatened by a Satanic display. Why else would you be defending the vandalism of this disay so much?
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