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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Well, I'm not a lib and I go to church often; when I feel like it. But nobody makes me go. Big difference. Moreover, your post is a classic example of why freedom from religion is so important in the US and why the constitution included the "freedom clause" to begin with.

    Thank you so much for proving that.
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    Okay, I think we are perhaps bickering about nothing. Your idea of "freedom from religion" is different than that of most libs. I pretty much agree with your assessment. But the "freedom from religion foundation" does not agree with you. Obviously nobody should be forced to believe or worship, nor should they be prohibited from doing so (as long as their worship doesn't include anything which physically harms anyone). Anyhow, sorry about the misunderstanding.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Why would anyone be offended by a nativity scene? Serious question.
    It depends on where you put it. I have one displayed in my home at Christmas every year: it's a very old one too. But I don't go next door and insist that they have one as well. Nor do I pester the mayor to get one set up at city hall.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Okay, I think we are perhaps bickering about nothing. Your idea of "freedom from religion" is different than that of most libs. I pretty much agree with your assessment. But the "freedom from religion foundation" does not agree with you. Obviously nobody should be forced to believe or worship, nor should they be prohibited from doing so (as long as their worship doesn't include anything which physically harms anyone). Anyhow, sorry about the misunderstanding.
    The freedom from religion foundation does not represent me, they just have a convenient name: they're atheists I think. I'm not an atheist.

    Thanks for agreeing; I'm glad we do. I just wish that we could get the right-wing evangelicals to coll it. That would go a long way toward attracting people TO church community instead of away from it.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I hate babies. I don't want to see a shrine dedicated to the birth of one. How's that?
    Fair enough, they do poop a lot.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't answer questions from people who repeatedly dodge questions asked of them so I will ask you for the third time:

    Other than christians taking offense at the Satanists display, who has taken offense at any religious display and why?
    The question had a rhetorical feel...I don't know who else took offense....Anybody that is a reasonable person I suspect...I don't dodge questions from you Sangha, but I am not going to get drawn into your snark either...

    So, now on to mine....
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    It depends on where you put it. I have one displayed in my home at Christmas every year: it's a very old one too. But I don't go next door and insist that they have one as well. Nor do I pester the mayor to get one set up at city hall.
    What? wait, How in the heck does having a nativity scene at city hall force you to have one at your house? And who "pestered" the Mayor? Was the Mayor of Tallahassee being 'pestered' to put one up? And do you have a link showing this?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't know who else took offense
    If you don't know of anyone who took offense, why did you ask so many times about why people were taking offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I don't really think that the nativity offends those that say it does, as much as it makes them feel guilty. So they act out like undisciplined children.
    It's clear that you claimed that there were people who said they were offended so why are you now saying that you don't know of anyone who took offense?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you don't know of anyone who took offense, why did you ask so many times about why people were taking offense?
    sangha, It is clear now that you have no intention of either being civil, or having a real discussion on the matter, so I will just leave you with a Happy Holidays, and leave it at that with you. I thought we could have a discussion about this but you seem to want that to go only one direction, and that is not how I view a conversation....So, I'll move on.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    sangha, It is clear now that you have no intention of either being civil, or having a real discussion on the matter,

    How could you think we could have a discussion when you make dishonest claims you are unwilling to back up with facts?

    You claim that you don't know of anyone who has been offended by the displays, even though you have claimed that there are people who are offended. You even accused another poster of being offended

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Y But what offends you about seeing a nativity scene? Or a Buddha? Or Mohammad?
    But when challenged, all you can do is post a dishonest response (that you don't know of anyone who has been offended by the displays) and then run away.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? wait, How in the heck does having a nativity scene at city hall force you to have one at your house? And who "pestered" the Mayor? Was the Mayor of Tallahassee being 'pestered' to put one up? And do you have a link showing this?
    You're completely misreading what I'm saying. Countryboy was asking why someone would be offended by a nativity scene. If you're an orthodox Jew, an agnostic, a fundamentalist Muslim, a scene at city hall might offend you: religiocentric in nature... evangelicals of all kinds push for imagery in public places.
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