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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    As I thought about this more, I'm not sure what even most christians are celebrating. Are they, like me, celebrating a time to think of friends and families and good will to all? are they celebrating shopping? how many are actually thinking about Jesus Christ and the lessons he taught (if you believe in the bible) about loving your fellow humans, taking care of the poor, and what not?

    I'm sure many do. I'm also sure many don't.

    But as someone said, what does it matter what satanists might be celebrating? look to your own heart; don't worry about your neighbor's heart.

    Exodus 20:16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    Proverbs 3:29 Devise not evil against your neighbor, seeing he dwells securely by you.

    Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

    Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

    Romans 13:10 Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

    Romans 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbor for his good to edification.

    Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

    Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good to all men, especially to them who are of the household of faith.

    James 2:8 If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, You shall love your neighbor as yourself, you do well:

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    So, therefore as Christians we are called to not only treat others kindly, but also, to edify them when they stray. IMHO, many do fall short, and people and business does commercialize Christmas more than many like to see. However, if that is your reason to back a display that not only is put up explicitly to offend, but to spread cynicism then that to me signifies a problem within those that would do that. Much of the holiday is a time that most people try to put differences aside and even if for a day, come together as family....

    I asked why the Satanists would want to do such a divisive thing during this holiday, and to date have gotten NO good answer on that, so I must conclude that it is just a childish way of antagonism which is just sad.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, you threw something out there that you can't answer...I should have expected as much....I recognize the beam if you will, but I am asking you what is so antagonistic about a nativity scene to you? You can't answer that can you?
    Not that you asked me, but to me putting a religious display on public property is antagonistic to those of us who don't follow that religion. If I am expected to have to look at someone else's religious icons, I expect all religions - and all groups, religious or not - to be allowed to put displays on public property. I'm sure I won't like the tea party one, but will be happy to see a feminist display.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I asked why the Satanists would want to do such a divisive thing during this holiday, and to date have gotten NO good answer on that, so I must conclude that it is just a childish way of antagonism which is just sad.
    It may be childish but it does raise a good question.

    If you want one religion respected on public property, than you have to accept others as well.

    This is a really great example of saying basically, be careful what you wish for and a really good reason why no religion at all, should be represented or respected on public property.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Not that you asked me, but to me putting a religious display on public property is antagonistic to those of us who don't follow that religion. If I am expected to have to look at someone else's religious icons, I expect all religions - and all groups, religious or not - to be allowed to put displays on public property. I'm sure I won't like the tea party one, but will be happy to see a feminist display.
    By the way, while I don't like seeing someone else's religious icons, it's not going to drive me into a violent fit as it seems to have done to the woman in the op.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    As I recall, you were the one to use the term. Why would I answer your questionable use of it?
    So, You refuse to answer a simple question? What offensive about asking you what was offensive? Good lord.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    By the way, while I don't like seeing someone else's religious icons, it's not going to drive me into a violent fit as it seems to have done to the woman in the op.
    Yes, and she was wrong, as I have said from the start. But what offends you about seeing a nativity scene? Or a Buddha? Or Mohammad?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, and she was wrong, as I have said from the start. But what offends you about seeing a nativity scene? Or a Buddha? Or Mohammad?
    Other than christians taking offense at the Satanists display, who has taken offense at any religious display and why?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, and she was wrong, as I have said from the start. But what offends you about seeing a nativity scene? Or a Buddha? Or Mohammad?
    Just that I'm having someone else's religious beliefs thrust in front of me. It's not a huge offense, and it happens all the time all over the place, so I've gotten used to it. But what is MORE offensive to me is someone saying only their religion can be in the public weal.

    It's like people saying "well, it's ok if they are gay, but do they have to flaunt it?" while all around us heterosexuality is being flaunted right, left, top, bottom, and center.

    We have christianity thrust in our faces all over the place, but somehow if we put up a display for a different religion, we are the problem. THAT is what is offensive. Christianity's demand to be the only religion displayed.

    I'm not saying you do that; but that is the attitude of way too many christians in this country.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It may be childish but it does raise a good question.

    If you want one religion respected on public property, than you have to accept others as well.

    This is a really great example of saying basically, be careful what you wish for and a really good reason why no religion at all, should be represented or respected on public property.
    Only for a very few does this display pose any threat, As I said before, if you are so insecure in your religion that you feel threatened by someone from the Church of Satan then you need to reassess your religion.

    This has always been part of religious freedom. What some here fail to see is that throwing Christianity off of public land is more damaging to religious freedom than someone defacing a display.
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