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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    A threadbare excuse is that one isn't a communist because they they don't advocate full ecomonic control by the central government.

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck---it's a duck! All but blind apologists can see the ACLU as a neo-communist front. You can't discredit the long history of the ACLU being founded and populated by communists. And you can't disprove the many cases of the ACLU defending communists over the years.

    Of course you, nor the ACLU could give a rat's *** about the USC and the Bill of Rights. The ACLU does not allow the 2nd Amendment to be defended---as communists do not allow anyone but their own revolutionaries to be armed. The ACLU forbade free speech among their own ranks. What hypocrites.

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    So which of the ten tenets of communism do you support? If you support most of them, then wouldn't you "be mostly a communist?"---just like the ACLU is mostly a communist front?
    I think you're throwing around words you consider pejorative with either a disrespect or ignorance of their actual meaning.

    Again, you're still not showing me examples of their economic cases, which are really the hallmark of an economic position like communism.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Cha Ching! (Though the odds weren't that great).
    Again, a reply that means nothing.

    Why are you so skeeved about satanists having a display?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but it's funny how this thread became an excuse for righttards to just toss insults around using words that they don't really understand, but know they're bad because they heard them used on the radio.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but it's funny how this thread became an excuse for righttards to just toss insults around using words that they don't really understand, but know they're bad because they heard them used on the radio.
    What nonsense are you spouting now? Examples? Oh and, "righttards"? Is that a big fancy word too?

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    And don't forget the reindeer that watched over baby jeezus.
    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Jeezz. You could at least call them by name.
    The reindeer? or baby jeezus?

    I actually took that from a letter written by a guy who said he is a christian (and I have no reason to doubt him); he wrote the letter to the MRFF (Military Religious Freedom Foundation). The full quote from the end of his letter:

    "I don't care if it rains or freezes -- cause I have my plastic Jeezus!"

    I thought it was pretty cute. He went on to say to the woman who helps run MRFF "Won't you take Jeezus as your Saviour - my precious little Jew Woman!"

    I figure if christians can spell it jeezus, so can I

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    What nonsense are you spouting now? Examples? Oh and, "righttards"? Is that a big fancy word too?
    A "Righttard" is a person who is both right wing and clearly retarded. Are you trying for that?

    Considering "libtard" gets tossed around, I think it's fair.


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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Again, can you show me cases where the ACLU has actually defended any of these "communist" ideals? The overwhelming majority of their cases are with free speech and freedom of religion.
    Exactly. Like when they defended Jehovah's Witnesses so they didn't have to do the pledge of allegiance. I don't consider JW's a communist organization.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Taken with their other statements, it amounts to mockery. But thanks for at least admitting you were off base by referring to it as an alternative.

    These people aren't a church, they don't even worship satan. Their stated goal is to force the removal of all religious displays from public property.
    I am okay with that goal. And mockery IS protected by freedom of speech.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I am okay with that goal. And mockery IS protected by freedom of speech.
    Valid point.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    This display was allowed to be put up this year because the city prior was threatened with law suits by an Atheist organization under the guise of the "Temple of Satan". This isn't the first year they have attempted this.

    The Supremes have been murky on their rulings in regard to religious displays. The city could take on the case but that means a lot of cost in legal fees.

    This Atheist activist group is probably the one behind placing the Satanic coloring books in a school that also occurred in Florida for children to take home because a church in the area dropped off flyers/programs about an event for youth they were having in the neighborhood.

    The majority of people are disgusted with this group's actions. If anyone could be described using the word "intolerant" it would be them. This manger scene represents the historical account in a faith that the majority of the people in that locality claim to be. The state constitution recognizes they are "grateful to Almighty God". It was placed on state property not federal. Yet somehow state and local governments have lost control because of a few justices who interpret the Establishment Clause too broadly.
    For the most part, I agree with what you say. People who believe this should remain a free country have to have the courage to fight this poisonous hostility toward religion, even if the fight costs a lot of money. I like the passages from School Dist. of Abington Township v. Schempp, the 1963 decision Justice Breyer quoted from in his concurring opinion in Van Orden v. Perry in 2005. In Abington Township, Justice Goldberg, joined by Justice Harlan, wrote this:

    "[U]ntutored devotion to the concept of neutrality can lead to invocation or approval of results which partake not simply of that noninterference and noninvolvement with the religious which the Constitution commands, but of a brooding and pervasive devotion to the secular and a passive, or even active, hostility to the religious . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    The First Amendment does not prohibit practices which by any realistic measure create none of the dangers which it is designed to prevent and which do not so directly or substantially involve the state in religious exercise or in the favoring of religion as to have meaningful and practical impact." (italics mine)


    I would tell the people who are trying to purge all religion from American public life to stuff it right up their jacks--and if they wanted to sue, to come right ahead and get their heads handed to them.

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