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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The people of Florida never should have allowed the bastards to place the damned display in the State Capitol in the first place. Satanists can all go to hell.
    Why are some religions entitled to a display and others not?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A commonly misunderstood phrase. It does not mean "don't judge". It means one will be judged as one judges others. Basically, 'judge not harshly or you will be judged harshly'.

    It's "judge not ___, lest ye be judged ___". The "___" is filled in by context.

    I realize it's asking a bit much of the reader to interpret as such, but the context provided does so according to every scholar I've read.
    Greetings, ecofarm.

    You are correct. None of us are perfect, but someone who would beat or starve an animal is not right, and I can't help wondering what went wrong in their life. Cruelty is never acceptable, IMO, which is why I am with an animal rescue group to save them. So sad.....

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    No, not really. All of it is Christian symbolism in one way or another.
    Christmas History: The Pagan Traditions

    Many of the traditions connected to the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ have non-Christian origins. Items like the Yule log, the Christmas tree, and the very placement of the observance during the darkest time in the calendar year stem from pre-Christian religious observances.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    So the barrier to allow religious freedom should be whether or not it "creates unrest" in the majority population?
    The only speech that should be protected is speech that doesn't need protection because the majority approves of it.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is not in the religion business. If a town hangs a banner over the main street welcoming the homecoming of their winning team it doesn't mean they are in the sports business either. Ticker tape parades though the streets of New York doesn't mean the government is in the business of whoever is being honored. It is just that people often get together to publicly celebrate an event that has culture connections, and society is generally better off for it.
    The one glaring omission in your analogy is that religion is specifically listed in the Bill of Rights as being unavailable for public establishment. Sports teams escaped the forefathers entirely.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    The one glaring omission in your analogy is that religion is specifically listed in the Bill of Rights as being unavailable for public establishment. Sports teams escaped the forefathers entirely.
    Turns out Thomas Jefferson was a diehard Steelers fan and wanted to be free to use government property to commemorate their championships.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Turns out Thomas Jefferson was a diehard Steelers fan and wanted to be free to use government property to commemorate their championships.
    I always figured Jefferson for being a Raiders fan. Learn something new every day.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It isn't worth it. There are a couple of people here who are so completely and utterly clueless and without the capacity for reason, it isn't worth even seeing what they have to say.
    And "coincidentally", they are all both right wing and christian.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    No, not really. All of it is Christian symbolism in one way or another.
    I disagree Countryboy. The yule log goes back to paganism. So does holly and mistletoe. Look up Christmas tree in the Encyclopedia Britannica and you will get a history lesson in the first paragraph about tree worship in ancient pagan customs.
    The evergreen tree was a symbol of the essence of life and was regarded as a phallic symbol in fertility worship.
    Witches and other pagans regarded the red holly as a symbol of the menstrual blood of the queen of heaven, also known as Diana. And if you have ever done a study on Diana of Ephesus, that is one "goddess" that hated little boys and favored girls. She sort of reminds me of the precursor of the feminism of males going on today.
    Here's a picture of her, and you thought a cow had a lot of teats!


    The holly wood was used by witches to make wands.

    The white berries of mistletoe were believed by pagans to represent droplets of the semen of the sun god.

    Both holly and mistletoe were hung in doorways of pagan temples and homes to invoke powers of fertility in those who stood beneath and kissed, causing the spirits of the god and goddess to enter them.

    These customs transcended the borders of Rome and Germany to the far reaches of the known world.

    Do all these traditions mean the same thing today? No. But it can not be denied they have their origins in paganism. These practices were among the pagans in the days of stories of great men of faith in the OT. Even in the Psalms you will find God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob depicted as an evergreen tree most likely to debunk tree worshipers at the time.
    I guess the message I am trying to relay is there are several traditions in a Christian celebration of Christmas that have pagan roots and are the traditions of men. The thing to remember is what is important is the condition of our heart which has nothing to do with traditions of men.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, ecofarm.

    You are correct. None of us are perfect, but someone who would beat or starve an animal is not right, and I can't help wondering what went wrong in their life. Cruelty is never acceptable, IMO, which is why I am with an animal rescue group to save them. So sad.....
    We can judge mistreating an animal as wrong. We should not do so in a manner as to dehumanize the sinner.

    Organic animals are given much more space per animal, mandatory outside time, organic plant matter only, no hormones and no sub-therapeutic antibiotics (needed in unhygienic conditions).

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