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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Kinda hard to do when the word Christ is in there. Wouldn't it be called Secularmas? Doesn't have the same ring to it.
    So there's no secular aspects to Christmas? Seriously?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So there's no secular aspects to Christmas? Seriously?
    No, not really. All of it is Christian symbolism in one way or another.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    No, not really. All of it is Christian symbolism in one way or another.
    If you insist.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If you insist.
    I do. No, seriously though. Everything from Santa, to Christmas trees, to candy canes. It is all steeped in Christian symbolism.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I do. No, seriously though. Everything from Santa, to Christmas trees, to candy canes. It is all steeped in Christian symbolism.
    I remember when the Elf On A Shelf was present at the Last Supper.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I remember when the Elf On A Shelf was present at the Last Supper.
    Lol. You do understand the meaning of the word, "symbolism", right?

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hi Pol, I found it ironic as our Constitution does not mention a Supreme being yet the Declaration of Independence does. It references a Supreme Being 5 different times.
    "Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God" are the first two. Actually these are the words of Cicero the philosopher, 1st Century B. C like other early philosophers believed there was a source of higher law that never changes. From Cicero “Nor may any other law override it, nor may it be repealed as a whole or in part… Nor is it one thing at Rome and another at Athens, one thing today and another tomorrow, but one eternal and unalterable law, that binds all nations forever.” Of “Nature’s God,” the second reference to deity is, of course, more explicit and needs no explanation.

    The third reference to God is the word “Creator” found in the second paragraph. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    The fourth is Supreme Judge in the last paragraph. “We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown…”

    The fifth and last reference to a Supreme Being is Divine Providence. “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”

    In this great country you have the right to believe or not believe in anything you want. And people need to respect that because if they don't they risk losing their own religious freedom.

    However, the closer government becomes to the people (state, local) the less secular it becomes as evident in state constitutions. But even then, no one has the right to "force" their beliefs onto another. While I am sure the Satanist display was set up to mock those of faith during the holiday season, what do you expect from a Satanist? Same with some atheist groups who seem to be working overtime to tear down religious symbols important to others. Or recently in the news where Muslims complained about a crucifix and it was removed. There are plenty of examples of intolerance in our society.
    Whatever happened to "live and let live?" Beliefs are a personal thing, and we are told to "judge not, lest we be judged." I could muse about where a person was coming from, but I would not challenge them on it. To each his own, and why bother, since I also have the right to walk away. If asked, I would give an opinion - otherwise I try not to, since it probably wouldn't change anyone's mind anyway.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    "judge not, lest we be judged."
    A commonly misunderstood phrase. It does not mean "don't judge". It means one will be judged as one judges others. Basically, 'judge not harshly or you will be judged harshly'.

    It's "judge not ___, lest ye be judged ___". The "___" is filled in by context.

    I realize it's asking a bit much of the reader to interpret as such, but the context provided does so according to every scholar I've read.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    The people of Florida never should have allowed the bastards to place the damned display in the State Capitol in the first place. Satanists can all go to hell.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Satanists can all go to hell.
    I believe that's the idea.

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