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Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol[W:649]

Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

The staff can pray - to themselves - any time they want. Go for it, staff! pray away! "I pray this day ends without me killing any students" (smile)

But no, they cannot lead students in prayer.

Because their constitutional free speech rights have been stripped.

Commies of the world rejoice!
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

If our own government in Congress is allowed to pray, then so should local institutions like public shcools. Liberal court rulings are an insane interpretation of seperation of church and state and the 14th due process clause.

If the 14th didn't allow public school prayer, then the SC justices would have enacted this back at least by the 1870's.

Honestly, the congress should not be allowed to pray while in session. Its a violation of the first amendment.

Also the 1870s was a time where people readily let culture override legalities (in this case, the clear wording of the first amendment), while there may be legal precedence, I take it with a grain of salt.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Hardly, nobody can possibly be stopped from praying quietly to themselves. The only thing the courts have done is stopped these people from making a public spectacle. Anyone can pray, any time they want. They just aren't allowed to use it to cause peer pressure on others.

Their right to free speech, to pray, to exercise their religious beliefs---and especially, the popular faith of their communites has been stripped away.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

No, they don't.
Your talent for defending your statements is as impressive as your understanding of the issues.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

If our own government in Congress is allowed to pray, then so should local institutions like public shcools. Liberal court rulings are an insane interpretation of seperation of church and state and the 14th due process clause.

If the 14th didn't allow public school prayer, then the SC justices would have enacted this back at least by the 1870's.

Our government shouldn't be allowed to pray, in my opinion.

However, in the case of congress, senate and such, at least the elected officials worked hard to be there. Kids are forced to go to school (which I agree with) but they shouldn't then be forced to listen to prayer they don't agree with.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Their right to free speech, to pray, to exercise their religious beliefs---and especially, the popular faith of their communites has been stripped away.

They can do all that. When they aren't in school on the job.

When I worked, I wasn't allowed to walk down the hallway preaching. (Granted, I never tried, but I assume it would have been frowned upon.)
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Honestly, the congress should not be allowed to pray while in session. Its a violation of the first amendment.

Also the 1870s was a time where people readily let culture override legalities (in this case, the clear wording of the first amendment), while there may be legal precedence, I take it with a grain of salt.

The 14th Amendment should be taken out, branch and root. Just another form of discrimination.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Your talent for defending your statements is as impressive as your understanding of the issues.

Thank you for your lavish praise.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

The 14th Amendment should be taken out, branch and root. Just another form of discrimination.

Which section?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

They can do all that. When they aren't in school on the job.

When I worked, I wasn't allowed to walk down the hallway preaching. (Granted, I never tried, but I assume it would have been frowned upon.)

Anyway you can honestly look at it, the free speech of school leaders has been taken away. I say the local communities should be allowed to run AND fund the schools as they see fit. Prayer or no prayer, what the cirriculum should be and punishment policies should be.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Which section?

ALL. There are no more slaves, so none is valid.

The Lefties love it because they can bring in anchor babies, and use the due process clause to take federal control.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

ALL. There are no more slaves, so none is valid.

The Lefties love it because they can bring in anchor babies, and use the due process clause to take federal control.

What exactly is bad about (you already discussed section 1)

2. the right to vote
3. senators only having one job
4. the country's credit rating

?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

The 14th Amendment should be taken out, branch and root. Just another form of discrimination.

Right-wingers always turn on the constitution when it grants rights to those they dislike.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Right-wingers always turn on the constitution when it grants rights to those they dislike.

Why do they hate america?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Why do they hate america?

In this thread they are attacking one of the core principles on which this country was founded. In the next thread, they'll be ranting about how liberalism is destroying the core principles of America. :shrug:
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

In this thread they are attacking one of the core principles on which this country was founded. In the next thread, they'll be ranting about how liberalism is destroying the core principles of America. :shrug:

I know, its amusing.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Their right to free speech, to pray, to exercise their religious beliefs---and especially, the popular faith of their communites has been stripped away.

Sorry, they never had the rights you describe in the first place. Rights are inherently limited. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and say it was free speech. A doctor can't get on his knees in the middle of an operation and claim a right to pray. People don't get to preach at work and pretend it's an exercise of their beliefs. Actions have consequences. People don't get to do things just because they feel like doing things and not have those consequences. Has nobody ever explained reality to you?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Right-wingers always turn on the constitution when it grants rights to those they dislike.

Beyond the Bill of Rights, there have been many bad Amendments besides the 14th.

Do you think Prohibition was all that great?
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

Sorry, they never had the rights you describe in the first place. Rights are inherently limited. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and say it was free speech. A doctor can't get on his knees in the middle of an operation and claim a right to pray. People don't get to preach at work and pretend it's an exercise of their beliefs. Actions have consequences. People don't get to do things just because they feel like doing things and not have those consequences. Has nobody ever explained reality to you?

This isn't about yelling "Fire, Fire."

It's about individuals AND their communities having the right to free speech, that your Neo-Com friends in the courts took away.

For course local schools and courthouses and state captials had the right to pray and to have religious displays for over a hundred years before these rights were stripped away.

If a boss or business owner wants to preach Jesus or Buddah or Mohammad---let them. A worker can go elsewhere, and the public can boycott their products or services.

This kind of freedom folks such as you can never accept or tolerate.
 
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injuns? really?

as for 3 and 4, i need a modern example of how this is discriminatory. Thats just civil war era stuff.

We can't have injuns discriminated against---cause I'm 1/64th injun myself.
 
Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

This isn't about yelling "Fire, Fire."

It's about individuals AND their communities having the right to free speech, that your Neo-Com friends in the courts took away.

For course local schools and courthouses and state captials had the right to pray and to have religious displays for over a hundred years before these rights were stripped away.

If a boss or business owner wants to preach Jesus or Buddah or Mohammad---let them. A worker can go elsewhere, and the public can boycott their products or services.

This kind of freedom folks such as you can never accept or tolerate.

In their own businesses, they can do whatever they want and anyone who wants to go find somewhere else to shop is welcome to. Nobody is required by law to go to those shops. School is a different thing, kids aren't there by choice, they can't just opt to go somewhere else, they have to go to school and therefore, people can't do whatever they want.

And I'm about the farthest thing from a neo-con as you can get. Don't be an ass.
 
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