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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The point being?
    That Satan is a "heinous evil" only in Christianity. Not to other religions, necessarily. One cannot tear down a religious display just because one finds it objectionable in his own religious beliefs.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdoJoker View Post
    That Satan is a "heinous evil" only in Christianity. Not to other religions, necessarily. One cannot tear down a religious display just because one finds it objectionable in his own religious beliefs.
    No, but the state should remove it.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    No, but the state should remove it.
    Why? Did it remove Christian displays?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdoJoker View Post
    Why? Did it remove Christian displays?
    Why should they, it's a predominantly Christian country.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why should they, it's a predominantly Christian country.
    It's a secular country. The belief of the majority isn't relevant.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Satanism is a heinous evil.
    You forgot to add "in your opinion".

    I actually can't recall any large scale killings that have happened in satan's name lately. Many more have been done in the name of the christian and muslim gods.

    I think it's all nonsense, but if they're going to allow one religion to put up displays, then they have to allow all groups to do it.

    Sorry to hear that you're condoning violence by saying her actions were understandable.

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why should they, it's a predominantly Christian country.
    Constitutionally irrelevant. The government cannot prefer any religion over any other religion. Using your logic, the predominant religion is the official religion by definition; but the Constitution prohibits an official religion. You can't have it both ways.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It's a secular country.
    If America is a secular country, why are most people religious? If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If America is a secular country, why are most people religious? If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?
    A country and its population or popular culture are not necessarily the same thing

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If America is a secular country, why are most people religious?
    They have a right to be, under the Free Exercise Clause (U.S. Const. amend. I). However, as a matter of law - and Constitution - it's a secular country by virtue of the Establishment Clause (also amend. I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If America was a secular country, wouldn't that mean that most people are either atheist or agnostic?
    No. You're confusing the nature of the country with the nature of the individual citizens - the logical fallacy of division (or composition, depending on which direction you're reasoning and which clause of the 1st Amendment you're using).

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