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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The ACLU deals with laws in the USA only. That the A stands for American is a hint.

    There are other organizations supported by liberals that work to protect the rights of oppressed religious people under theocracies and other systems of oppression.

    Search | Amnesty International USA

    Search | Human Rights Watch
    I've looked at all their websites in the past. The ACLU is perhaps the most openly pro-Communist and anti-Christian of the three.

    I doubt any of these Leftist groups has any real concept of what "justice" means. All of them have been very soft on the atheistic totalitariam government in recent decades:

    Amnesty International has disproportionately criticized free democratic nations over authoritarian nations with grave human rights abuses, such as Cuba, Vietnam, and North Korea. This exposes an anti-American standpoint increasingly common in liberal groups. Peter Phelps, a writer for Australia’s leading free market think tank, The Institute for Public Affairs, wrote that Amnesty International has deviated from its founding goals,

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    I've looked at all their websites in the past. The ACLU is perhaps the most openly pro-Communist and anti-Christian of the three.

    I doubt any of these Leftist groups has any real concept of what "justice" means. All of them have been very soft on the atheistic totalitariam government in recent decades:

    Amnesty International has disproportionately criticized free democratic nations over authoritarian nations with grave human rights abuses, such as Cuba, Vietnam, and North Korea. This exposes an anti-American standpoint increasingly common in liberal groups. Peter Phelps, a writer for Australia’s leading free market think tank, The Institute for Public Affairs, wrote that Amnesty International has deviated from its founding goals,

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    What do you feel are the communist stances the ACLU has taken?
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    So why didn't the United States become a theocracy during the first 200+ years of having Christain displays on government property?

    I believe you, the ACLU and all troublemaking atheists here in the US should practice what you preach. All of you should travel to ISIS territory in Syria and Iraq and demand that your atheist and multicultural ideas be represented near the public beading of infidels.
    Or we can just make America better and more free. I mean, if you're into improving things.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You break a society by first breaking their culture. That's the intent here.
    Cry cry cry, whine whine whine. Oh no! Christianity isn't the only religion to be recognized in America! Oh woe are we!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Oh yes, she clearly felt strongly against celebrating evil.
    And she gets to be punished for vandalism.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    What do you feel are the communist stances the ACLU has taken?
    The origins of the American Civil Liberties Union are deeply entangled with Communism. Not the idealistic “liberals in a hurry” stuff of fellow-travelling fairy tale, but the bloody-minded sedition and revolutionary terror of hard historical reality.


    [ACLU founder Roger] Baldwin’s radicalism caught the eye of the FBI, which quoted him in a 1924 report as having said: “The right to advocate a violent revolution, assassination, and proletarian Red guard, are all clearly within scope of free speech …”



    The ACLU founder traveled to Stalin’s Russia in 1927 and wrote a book titled “Liberty Under The Soviets” the following year, which defended the Lenin’s and Stalin’s repression of dissent because they “are weapons in the transition to socialism.”
    The ACLU's Communist origins | RedState

    In 1927, he (Baldwin) had visited the Soviet Union and wrote a book, Liberty Under the Soviets. Originally, at the beginning of the ACLU, he had said, "Communism, of course, is the goal."

    Roger Nash Baldwin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    William H. Donohue, PhD, President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, said in his Aug. 23, 2006 interview with Stop the ACLU that:


    "I believe that the American Civil Liberties Union is based upon a noble purpose. However, they often work against that very purpose due to a radical interpretation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... They are an arm of the radical left. In my first book..., I also exposed just how phony their claim of being non-partisan is.... Its record is far from showing impartiality. It is full of attempts to reform American society according to the ideals of liberalism."

    Devvy Kidd, Founder and Director of the Project on Winning Economic Reform, wrote the Dec. 3, 2004 "ACLU Fulfilling Communist Agenda" for World Net Daily that said:



    "For the past few decades, the ACLU has been on a major crusade to destroy Christianity in America, promote filth under 'freedom of speech and expression,' and of course, vigorously defend the homosexual culture of death...

    Anyone who has been following the destructive path of the ACLU can easily see how effective these communist goals have been implemented to 'promote democracy' and protect your 'civil rights...' Perhaps it's time to recognize the ACLU as the American Communist Lawyers Union instead of their disingenuous 'civil rights' stage name
    Is the ACLU a Communist or Left-Wing Organization? - ACLU - ProCon.org

    Now, imagine that the founder of the American Heritage Institute, or Cato Institute had traveled to Nazi Germany and then wrote glowing reports about them and even said, "National Socialism is the goal."

    Wouldn't you rightly say that these would be Pro-Nazi organizations---just on thay alone? Of course you would. Just because CNN and Time and the New York Times don't report these things about the ACLU does not make them less true.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    The origins of the American Civil Liberties Union are deeply entangled with Communism. Not the idealistic “liberals in a hurry” stuff of fellow-travelling fairy tale, but the bloody-minded sedition and revolutionary terror of hard historical reality.


    [ACLU founder Roger] Baldwin’s radicalism caught the eye of the FBI, which quoted him in a 1924 report as having said: “The right to advocate a violent revolution, assassination, and proletarian Red guard, are all clearly within scope of free speech …”



    The ACLU founder traveled to Stalin’s Russia in 1927 and wrote a book titled “Liberty Under The Soviets” the following year, which defended the Lenin’s and Stalin’s repression of dissent because they “are weapons in the transition to socialism.”
    The ACLU's Communist origins | RedState

    In 1927, he (Baldwin) had visited the Soviet Union and wrote a book, Liberty Under the Soviets. Originally, at the beginning of the ACLU, he had said, "Communism, of course, is the goal."

    Roger Nash Baldwin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    William H. Donohue, PhD, President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, said in his Aug. 23, 2006 interview with Stop the ACLU that:


    "I believe that the American Civil Liberties Union is based upon a noble purpose. However, they often work against that very purpose due to a radical interpretation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... They are an arm of the radical left. In my first book..., I also exposed just how phony their claim of being non-partisan is.... Its record is far from showing impartiality. It is full of attempts to reform American society according to the ideals of liberalism."

    Devvy Kidd, Founder and Director of the Project on Winning Economic Reform, wrote the Dec. 3, 2004 "ACLU Fulfilling Communist Agenda" for World Net Daily that said:



    "For the past few decades, the ACLU has been on a major crusade to destroy Christianity in America, promote filth under 'freedom of speech and expression,' and of course, vigorously defend the homosexual culture of death...

    Anyone who has been following the destructive path of the ACLU can easily see how effective these communist goals have been implemented to 'promote democracy' and protect your 'civil rights...' Perhaps it's time to recognize the ACLU as the American Communist Lawyers Union instead of their disingenuous 'civil rights' stage name
    Is the ACLU a Communist or Left-Wing Organization? - ACLU - ProCon.org

    Now, imagine that the founder of the American Heritage Institute, or Cato Institute had traveled to Nazi Germany and then wrote glowing reports about them and even said, "National Socialism is the goal."

    Wouldn't you rightly say that these would be Pro-Nazi organizations---just on thay alone? Of course you would. Just because CNN and Time and the New York Times don't report these things about the ACLU does not make them less true.
    I'll repeat my question: what communist stances do you believe the ACLU has? Show me court cases. Preferably from the last 70 years.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Or we can just make America better and more free. I mean, if you're into improving things.
    An improvement, not a great one though, would be to arm all the members of the ACLU and Amnesty Intl. and fly them to ISIS territory and let them try to convert the Islamic radicals to atheism. Not as good as converting them to Christianity, but a step in the right direction.
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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    There is right and wrong.
    I agree with that. There is also a lot of "grey" in between.


    Praise of the devil goes in the wrong category.
    Who people pray to or idolize is really none of my business. As long as they don't infringe on others rights as an American I would have to say this is in the "grey" area. I may not agree with it but as an American they have freedom choice. You obviously don't approve and as an American (I assume) you have that right as well.

    You wish to idolize evil?
    I wish to keep my nose out of other peoples business. In this case I agree with J-Mac that they are putting up the display just to "mess" with those that find it necessary to display religious scenes on public property. Its not enough you can put the scene in front of your church, your house, your business. Some Christians feel the need to make sure everyone knows they are Christians because they are in the majority. The nice thing about the USA is that the minority is somewhat protected. I personally feel there should be no religious paraphernalia on public property but if you are going to allow some there shouldn't be discrimination. If you consider this "idolizing the devil" knock yourself out. I consider it adhering to American principals.

    We don't need you, you are part of the problem.
    Who is "We"? Truth be told I don't need you either. You don't even know me other than by some posts on a forum. How exactly "am I part of the problem"? To give you information I am Jewish although non practicing and consider myself agnostic. Not sure about the existence of God other than knowing you and yours sure as hell don't know either. My wife is Catholic and my 2 kids were raised Catholic but neither is religious. They can make up their own mind as far as I'm concerned. I'm a CPA (yea we are truly evil) and my wife is a college professor. I am "white" while she is "black" which means our kids have much better protection from the sun than I do. SPF50 for me and a cap. I consider those that need to force their religious beliefs on others to be "part of the problem".

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    Re: Woman arrested after damaging Satanic display at Florida Capitol

    These "Satanists" are not a religion. They are atheists posing as Satanists in order to provoke Christians. Even their own website has the exact stance of an extreme atheist described in it. No matter what they or anyone else says that is all that they are. Such actions should not be allowed as it creates unrest and does not lead to a peaceful society. The OP is an example of that. While I don't condone her actions I certainly do not blame her for those actions. She was provoked imo. I don't care if they put up Islamic symbols or Hindu or whatever, hell, don't even care about Wiccan idoltry being put up. But these "Satanists" are doing what they are just to provoke and they should be shut down.
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