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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The limited release is testing the water. If people beat the doors down at those few theaters, the rest of the theaters around the country will be begging for release to them, too.
    This aint your normal movie release and you are thinking in 20th century terms just like the boneheaded movie executives are.

    If Sony at all wanted to get any money out of this movie and at the same time "get back" at the hackers, then they would have released it world wide at the same time on line. This movie would never ever have been seen outside the US in the first place, because the actors are relatively unknowns (hardly block buster people) to most international audiences.

    So with all the hype thanks to the hacks, Sony had a great opportunity to actually earn at least the cost back on this movie. Releasing it online, on Youtube or Google Play at a reasonable price at the same time it released it in the US, would have garnered revenues that it would never have gotten because people were curious about the movie. In a week that curiosity would be gone and people will not spend 4-5 Euros on renting the movie if it gets released.

    Now the question is why Sony did not do this.. and I suspect it is because they dont want to prove once and for all, that an VOD world wide release is not only possible (any idiot can see it is) but that it might actually be more profitable than the traditional methods. Why? Because the traditional methods gives the studios more control and theoretically more money if it was not for this pesky illegal downloads situation and the studios dont want to piss off and kill of the cinema chains. Plus TV producing companies would go totally ape**** over such a release, because it would also prove that doing it with TV shows is possible.

    So instead Sony and their kind will continue to complain about piracy, while being the root cause of piracy in the first place, because they dont provide the content in the manner people want.
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    In other words you did not know it was a Sony company.
    If you actually grasped that out of my statements, you've got bigger issues than believing that Sony worked out how this movie would be distributed. This was a Columbia thing as they were the ones who got the call telling them to figure out how to do this without putting it in a theater.
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you actually grasped that out of my statements, you've got bigger issues than believing that Sony decided how this movie would be distributed or for that matter worked on the deals which took place for the distribution.
    Listen.. normally I would agree with you.. however this is hardly "normal" situation is it now?

    Columbia is the distribution arm of Sony. Normally it would do its job without any input from Sony Pictures. However this is not a "normal" situation and because Sony owns Columbia, then they can at any time order Columbia around and tell them what to do. All correspondence in this case came from Sony, not Columbia. It was Sony Pictures that was hacked, not Columbia. Sony Pictures holds the rights to the movie, not Columbia. Columbia is a Sony company.
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Listen.. normally I would agree with you.. however this is hardly "normal" situation is it now?
    I agree. It's not normal. However, I have a very serious problem believing that Sony told Columbia anything other than: "Figure out how to get this movie some money, don't put it in more than 300 theaters." It gave basic guidelines and then left the matter in Columbia's hands for the same final approval it would give to another movie with another set of guidelines for release (think arthouse or awardhogs)

    Columbia is the distribution arm of Sony. Normally it would do its job without any input from Sony Pictures. However this is not a "normal" situation and because Sony owns Columbia, then they can at any time order Columbia around and tell them what to do. All correspondence in this case came from Sony, not Columbia. It was Sony Pictures that was hacked, not Columbia. Sony Pictures holds the rights to the movie, not Columbia. Columbia is a Sony company.
    The fact that it's not normal doesn't change how this played out. Now before you think that it wasn't Columbia which was hacked, some of the e-mails released actually came from Columbia execs. Hannah Minghella, Andrea Giametti, these are people whose e-mails were also leaked:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewzeitl...m-j#.avWybpAaO

    A few days later, a group of Sony executives were emailed a BBC story with the headline “North Korea threatens war on US over North Korea movie,” Pascal responded “Is this a joke.”

    Hwang, the Korean executive, responded “Let me find out but it will be fine.” Hannah Minghella, the president of Columbia Pictures, said “I think it’s very real and very scary.” Andrea Giametti, the executive vice president for product at Columbia, said, “We survived opus day and Jesus freaks on davinci. Al queda on zero dark thirty. And we will on this too.”
    Now, with that said, I don't think whether this is "normal" or not has much relevance. I think Sony did what it would do with any other movie. It gave execs at Columbia basic guidelines and told them to figure out the rest on their own. They did and this was the result. A movie released for US audiences first, and then eventually the rest of the world. Admittedly, it follows in the same tradition as normal movie releases and that to me is evidence that this was the work of Columbia and not Sony perse.

    I think that's pretty much the most damning evidence that this was Columbia's doing. The fact that the movie's release follows a traditional release cycle. American audiences first, then the rest of the world, maybe. I think Columbia botched it but only because nobody realized that it would be pirated within 48 hours if not less. However, that's not how Sony/Columbia would have made most of their money on this anyways. So I don't think it's that much of a loss. They'll probably make the movie's budget and more from licensing deals (VOD, PPV, etc).
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I agree. It's not normal. However, I have a very serious problem believing that Sony told Columbia anything other than: "Figure out how to get this movie some money, don't put it in more than 300 theaters." It gave basic guidelines and then left the matter in Columbia's hands for the same final approval it would give to another movie with another set of guidelines for release (think arthouse or awardhogs)
    Considering the lawsuits already in place and the ones to come... it is Sony Pictures if not Sony HQ running the show.. believe me, this whole situation is micro-managed by the top dogs at the company and not left to a subsidiary.

    The fact that it's not normal doesn't change how this played out. Now before you think that it wasn't Columbia which was hacked, some of the e-mails released actually came from Columbia execs. Hannah Minghella, Andrea Giametti, these are people whose e-mails were also leaked:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewzeitl...m-j#.avWybpAaO
    And you in fact prove that Sony Pictures and Colombia Pictures are the same company ultimately. Why? Because emails and movies from both were hacked.. and the Bond script was taken from Sony Picture servers.

    Now, with that said, I don't think whether this is "normal" or not has much relevance. I think Sony did what it would do with any other movie. It gave execs at Columbia basic guidelines and told them to figure out the rest on their own. They did and this was the result. A movie released for US audiences first, and then eventually the rest of the world. Admittedly, it follows in the same tradition as normal movie releases but that to me is evidence that this was the work of Columbia and not Sony perse.
    Maybe, but it only shows how stupid the movie industry is.. even when under threat by cyber terrorists..
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Obama did not criticize Sony for no reason. We cannot allow a third world thug to censor our information system. That won't fly.

    What to do is another question. Sony has been cajoled into the role of the missing hero. That cannot be the general solution, however. Too many heroes die. So what to do?
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol what? I've work in or around media for 10+ years and have a pretty strong grasp on revenue and entertainment companies bring in their revenue. Mostly because I find it important to understand how other departments within a media conglomerate work. I did it when I worked in France, I'm doing it now that I work for a much more visible company. Hell, I predicted Glenn Beck's FOX dismissal a full month before it happened.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-m...post1063455705

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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Obama did not criticize Sony for no reason. We cannot allow a third world thug to censor our information system. That won't fly.

    What to do is another question. Sony has been cajoled into the role of the missing hero. That cannot be the general solution, however. Too many heroes die. So what to do?
    U know these things! Some of us dont. They like google n stuff.

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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering the lawsuits already in place and the ones to come... it is Sony Pictures if not Sony HQ running the show.. believe me, this whole situation is micro-managed by the top dogs at the company and not left to a subsidiary.

    And you in fact prove that Sony Pictures and Colombia Pictures are the same company ultimately. Why? Because emails and movies from both were hacked.. and the Bond script was taken from Sony Picture servers.

    Maybe, but it only shows how stupid the movie industry is.. even when under threat by cyber terrorists..
    We'll have to agree to disagree. You think this was Sony's doing, I think it follows the well established pattern of Columbia Pictures. The movie was released in the US first, because that's how Columbia would have done it anyways. Sony IMO told them not to have anywhere near a 3000 theater release (mostly because major theater chains wouldn't touch the movie), they went with the internet and independent theaters. This has Columbia written all over it, not Sony.
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    re: “The Interview” now available on Google Play and YouTube Movies [W:66]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Sony is undoubtedly playing a poor hand with virtuosity.
    That does not mean that a long term solution based on the hope of an automatic hero will work.
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