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Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

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Another shooting of a young black man in Missouri, that had pulled a gun on the Officer. Couple miles away from Ferguson. The Officer did what he had to.....and deadly force was used. Immediately a band of protestors gather on the scene. Right away taunting the police and blaming them for killing another black man. It didn't matter the young black man pulled a gun. What say ye?







BERKELEY, Missouri (AP) — A suburban St. Louis police officer shot and killed a man who pointed a gun at him at a gas station late Tuesday, police said.

A crowd of about 100 people were gathered early Wednesday at the scene in Berkeley, Missouri, a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot black 18-year-old Michael Brown in August. The protesters gathered early Wednesday milled around the gas pumps at the station, some taunting and yelling at police officers.

Some had strands of yellow police-line tape draped around their neck, with others using it as a headband. Authorities from multiple agencies, some in riot gear, stood among the protesters.....snip~

Police: Officer in Missouri shot, killed man who pulled gun
 
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Some pics on how this amped up. Again, it seems they did not care that this guy pulled a gun on a cop.


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1. The police said he pulled a gun. If they police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot him. I'm not inclined to just accept what the police say just because they said it.

2. The police said he pulled a gun AFTER the protesters came to the scene. Therefore, asking why protesters were mad in light of the fact that the police said he pulled a gun is nonsensical since the police hadn't even provided their side of the story yet.

3. I support these protests wholeheartedly and while I can understand why some people would "taunt" officers (built up anger and frustration), it bothers me. I don't think that that is the way to express one's frustration.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
1. The police said he pulled a gun. If they police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot him. I'm not inclined to just accept what the police say just because they said it.

2. The police said he pulled a gun AFTER the protesters came to the scene. Therefore, asking why protesters were mad in light of the fact that the police said he pulled a gun is nonsensical since the police hadn't even provided their side of the story yet.

3. I support these protests wholeheartedly and while I can understand why some people would "taunt" officers (built up anger and frustration), it bothers me. I don't think that that is the way to express one's frustration.
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Where did you see that the Officer said he pulled a gun after the protestors arrived. As this is what was stated. Do you think the Gas Station Attendant is a witness as to when the protestors arrived? What about the gun laying on the ground and the police getting it?



According to a statement from St. Louis County police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schellman, a Berkeley police officer was conducting a routine business check at a gas station around 11:15 p.m. Tuesday when he saw two men and approached them.

One of the men pulled a handgun and pointed it at the officer, Schellman said. The officer fired several shots, striking and fatally wounding the man. The second man fled, and the dead man's handgun has been recovered, according to Schellman.....snip~
 
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MMC said:
Where did you see that the Officer said he pulled a gun after the protestors arrived.
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I was unclear. I was saying that after the protesters arrived, the police made a statement about the guy pulling a gun.

As this is what was stated. Do you think the Gas Station Attendant is a witness as to when the protestors arrived? What about the gun laying on the ground and the police getting it?

According to a statement from St. Louis County police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schellman, a Berkeley police officer was conducting a routine business check at a gas station around 11:15 p.m. Tuesday when he saw two men and approached them.

One of the men pulled a handgun and pointed it at the officer, Schellman said. The officer fired several shots, striking and fatally wounding the man. The second man fled, and the dead man's handgun has been recovered, according to Schellman.....snip~
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All you did was quote the police statement again. Like I said, if the police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot them, but I'm not inclined to just accept what they way. Reporting their account of events as fact is silly to me.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
1. The police said he pulled a gun. If they police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot him. I'm not inclined to just accept what the police say just because they said it.

2. The police said he pulled a gun AFTER the protesters came to the scene. Therefore, asking why protesters were mad in light of the fact that the police said he pulled a gun is nonsensical since the police hadn't even provided their side of the story yet.

3. I support these protests wholeheartedly and while I can understand why some people would "taunt" officers (built up anger and frustration), it bothers me. I don't think that that is the way to express one's frustration.
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MMC said:
Where did you see that the Officer said he pulled a gun after the protestors arrived. As this is what was stated. Do you think the Gas Station Attendant is a witness as to when the protestors arrived? What about the gun laying on the ground and the police getting it?



According to a statement from St. Louis County police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schellman, a Berkeley police officer was conducting a routine business check at a gas station around 11:15 p.m. Tuesday when he saw two men and approached them.

One of the men pulled a handgun and pointed it at the officer, Schellman said. The officer fired several shots, striking and fatally wounding the man. The second man fled, and the dead man's handgun has been recovered, according to Schellman.....snip~
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Hello? Anything?

The cop haters are getting out of hand. I guess it's never okay to ever shoot a black man. What if someone is mixed, and you cannot tell by appearance they are black? Will cops have to perform DNA tests in the field before drawing their weapon? :roll:
 
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Get the body camera implemented. That will shed more light.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I was unclear. I was saying that after the protesters arrived, the police made a statement about the guy pulling a gun.


All you did was quote the police statement again. Like I said, if the police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot them, but I'm not inclined to just accept what they way. Reporting their account of events as fact is silly to me.
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No, that's not all I did......was just doing some quoting. As you forgot the question about the Gas station attendant. Also these people continued to gather and then they started throwing things at the Police. Even before most knew anything or what was going on. But lo and behold the cries go forth about another 18 year old black man getting shot and killed. Now look what takes place.

Who said it was a proven fact or even unproven? All you were shown was what the police stated. So don't try and make more out of what was done. Than, what actually was.


Images and video footage showed a flash, a loud bang and smoke filling an area near the gas pumps, but it was not clear whether they were caused by bystanders or the police. Local broadcaster KSDK reported people hurled rocks and bricks toward police......snip~


Btw, do you think the Gas station had video cams watching the Gas pumps?
 
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This was at a gas station so hopefully there is video of the encounter.
 
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Misleading headline. They left and the "and" to make it appear as if a a police officer had been shot. Guns should be banned for use by the general public. Once that happens, we can start to demilitarize the police.

Even black cops feel like they are racially profiled when off duty (Off duty, black cops in New York feel threat from fellow police )
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I was unclear. I was saying that after the protesters arrived, the police made a statement about the guy pulling a gun.
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Have you ever filled out a police report? It takes a few minutes. Protesters can easily show up before you've literally finished writing your statement; especially since they're super focused on protesting while you're not very focused at all on writing a report, having just shot a man.
 
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This happened when I was asleep, a thousand miles from where I am. I don't know enough to talk about it. I'm sure eventually details will come out. All I know at this point is that it happened. I would suggest that everyone wait to discover the how and why and not say things like, just because the cops said something, I don't trust them. That's foolish.
 
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I predict Al Sharpton will be speaking by the end of the day, and we'll see riots soon thereafter.
 
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MMC said:
Images and video footage showed a flash, a loud bang and smoke filling an area near the gas pumps, but it was not clear whether they were caused by bystanders or the police.
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According to your link the protesters threw fireworks at the police. That's what we see in the video.
 
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Jerry said:
According to your link the protesters threw fireworks at the police. That's what we see in the video.
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Throwing fireworks at a gas station sounds like a legal, safe and sane way of protesting. ;)
 
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Jerry said:
According to your link the protesters threw fireworks at the police. That's what we see in the video.
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Mornin Jerry. :2wave: Reuters reported what the local station had reported.

Images and video footage showed a flash, a loud bang and smoke filling an area near the gas pumps, but it was not clear whether they were caused by bystanders or the police. Local broadcaster KSDK reported people hurled rocks and bricks toward police......snip~

Tense scenes in Missouri after police shoot another black teen
 
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Declan said:
Misleading headline. They left and the "and" to make it appear as if a a police officer had been shot. Guns should be banned for use by the general public. Once that happens, we can start to demilitarize the police.

Even black cops feel like they are racially profiled when off duty (Off duty, black cops in New York feel threat from fellow police )
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Guns should be " banned " ???

Are you serious ? So take away every law abiding Americans right to slf defense because you're gullible enough to buy into all of this " hands up don't shoot " nonsense ?
 
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Fenton said:
Guns should be " banned " ???

Are you serious ? So take away every law abiding Americans right to slf defense because you're gullible enough to buy into all of this " hands up don't shoot " nonsense ?
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Yes guns should be banned, starting with handguns and readily concealed weapons. Has nothing to do with Hands Up, Don't Shoot. It has to do with the death toll.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
1. The police said he pulled a gun. If they police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot him. I'm not inclined to just accept what the police say just because they said it.

2. The police said he pulled a gun AFTER the protesters came to the scene. Therefore, asking why protesters were mad in light of the fact that the police said he pulled a gun is nonsensical since the police hadn't even provided their side of the story yet.

3. I support these protests wholeheartedly and while I can understand why some people would "taunt" officers (built up anger and frustration), it bothers me. I don't think that that is the way to express one's frustration.
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Do you support protesting anything that involves police use of deadly force or only if the "victim" is black? Never mind any investigation at all just get out there and protest ASAP becuase the "vicitm's" mother says he was a good boy and was (somewhere else?) with his girlfriend at the time. I suspect that there is at least surveillance video at that market/gas station and likely quite a few folks were present at that hour of the evening.
 
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Kudos to this headline :Officer in Missouri shot, killed man who pulled gun It is all we need to know until all the facts are in. Stop making it into another black vs white nonsense. Stop vilifying.
Just stop it. This holier than thou attitude is almost too much to take. We aren't cops being called into these situations.
 
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Declan said:
Yes guns should be banned, starting with handguns and readily concealed weapons. Has nothing to do with Hands Up, Don't Shoot. It has to do with the death toll.
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That's absurd.

More " Gun laws " that the low life criminals won't follow leaving law abiding Americans defenseles.

No thanks.

Fortunately even our Politicians have more sense ( most do anyway ) than you do and we'll always be allowed to defend ourselves and our Families and property.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
This thread isn't a gun control thread. Stop the threadjacking
 
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Declan said:
Misleading headline. They left and the "and" to make it appear as if a a police officer had been shot. Guns should be banned for use by the general public. Once that happens, we can start to demilitarize the police.

Even black cops feel like they are racially profiled when off duty (Off duty, black cops in New York feel threat from fellow police )
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Want my guns? Come take them. Bring whoever you want. Just be the first through the door.
 
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OrphanSlug said:
I predict Al Sharpton will be speaking by the end of the day, and we'll see riots soon thereafter.
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Good. Good TV watching. We need more cities in this nation on fire. Let the criminals run loose and see what they can accomplish. Then it will prove that we need a police presence.
We just need some upscale neighborhoods to catch fire.
 
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