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Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

US Conservative said:
Sharpton has blood on his hands, Kobie. And its not the first time.
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When challenged, simply repeat the assertion, evidence-free.

Since you've displayed that's all you plan on doing this evening, I think we can consider our interaction closed. Have a nice night.
 
US Conservative said:
Kobie, Sharptons rhetoric contributed to the deaths of two cops, who dont get to spend today with their families. Something for you to think about.
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So, if someone reads the messages of conservatives saying "blacks need to be more responsible" and decides they hate blacks and goes and kills 2 african americans - are you going to hold yourself responsible for being part of that rhetoric?
 
whysoserious said:
So, if someone reads the messages of conservatives saying "blacks need to be more responsible" and decides they hate blacks and goes and kills 2 african americans - are you going to hold yourself responsible for being part of that rhetoric?
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Why do you equate saying blacks need to be more responsible with hate?
Its a fascinating view into the liberal mind.
 
whysoserious said:
So, if someone reads the messages of conservatives saying "blacks need to be more responsible" and decides they hate blacks and goes and kills 2 african americans - are you going to hold yourself responsible for being part of that rhetoric?
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That doesn't even make any sense.
 
apdst said:
Did Romney, or Einstein get any cops killed?
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See response to US Conservative regarding that fallacy.

Using the word "fight" as a rhetorical device has never gotten anybody killed. Why isn't the person who shot two police officers being held responsible for his own actions? Why are you so desperate to find SOMEONE to blame for supposedly driving him to do it?
 
Kobie said:
You're missing the point. The presence of riots does not magically make Sharpton's quote a call to violence. Unless you're arguing that a call to violence is only really a call to violence if violence follows it, QED.
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When you tell a 'gangsta' to fight, yes that necessarily means violence; that means walking up to cops in a parked car and shooting them; that means pulling a gun on a cop who stops you at a gas station.
 
Jerry said:
When you tell a 'gangsta' to fight, yes that necessarily means violence; that means walking up to cops in a parked car and shooting them; that means pulling a gun on a cop who stops you at a gas station.
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So using a not-thinly-veiled-at-all BOXING metaphor is all of a sudden going to make black people, via Al Sharpton's mind control, start blowing away cops? That's absurd.

Here's a list of common boxing metaphors:

https://sites.google.com/site/sportingmetaphors/match-stats

Any time anyone uses any of these, that's a call to violence? Or only when you're talking to bla ... er, "gangstas"?

Referring to a struggle of some sort as a "fight" is commonplace.
 
Kobie said:
So using a not-thinly-veiled-at-all BOXING metaphor is all of a sudden going to make black people, via Al Sharpton's mind control, start blowing away cops? That's absurd.

Here's a list of common boxing metaphors:

https://sites.google.com/site/sportingmetaphors/match-stats

Any time anyone uses any of these, that's a call to violence? Or only when you're talking to bla ... er, "gangstas"?
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Since when is "fight" a boxing metaphor?

And yes you have to consider who you're talking to when you talk to people.
 
Jerry said:
Since when is "fight" a boxing metaphor?
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This is the quote in question, the one that apdst claimed was a "call to violence":

"We lost the round, but the fight ain’t over,” he said, Newsmax reported. “You won the first round, Mr. Prosecutor [Bob McCulloch], but don’t cut your gloves off, ‘cause the fight’s not over. Justice will come to Ferguson."
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Al Sharpton on Ferguson: 'We lost the round, but the fight ain't over' - Washington Times

"Cutting your gloves off" is a boxing term (albeit not one used in that list of boxing metaphors).
 
Jerry said:
A black man assaulted a cop and Sharpton says the fight isn't over. Yeah that's a call to violence.
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Ugh.

Sharpton was addressing the Ferguson D.A., saying that the "fight" for justice for Brown (as he saw it) wasn't over. You're simply wrong here, dude.
 
Kobie said:
Ugh.

Sharpton was addressing the Ferguson D.A., saying that the "fight" for justice for Brown (as he saw it) wasn't over. You're simply wrong here, dude.
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Yeah, but he'll never realize he's wrong.
 
Kobie said:
Ugh.

Sharpton was addressing the Ferguson D.A., saying that the "fight" for justice for Brown (as he saw it) wasn't over. You're simply wrong here, dude.
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If Sharpton was addressing the DA then Sharpton would have used a private means of communication. He was talking to the black community using an address to the DA as a springboard. Cops are dead as a direct result of Sharpton's words so you're simply wrong here "dude".

Sharpton is nothing less than a domestic terrorist and needs to be brought up on charges.
 
Jerry said:
If Sharpton was addressing the DA then Sharpton would have used a private means of communication. He was talking to the black community using an address to the DA as a springboard. Cops are dead as a direct result of Sharpton's words so you're simply wrong here "dude".

Sharpton is nothing less than a domestic terrorist and needs to be brought up on charges.
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So Sharpton saying the word "fight" is a call to violence. Okay.

I posted several other quotes of people using the term "fight" in reference to their particular struggles. I assume those are calls to violence as well? Or only when Al Sharpton is talking?
 
Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

whysoserious said:
I don't think you could find one person who studies law that thinks "just answer the officers" questions is a good idea.
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How much do you want to bet?
 
Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

whysoserious said:
That's going to be mostly common sense. I've taken a low level criminal justice class and low-level general lawyerings classes. But this is just a common sense idea.

When in doubt, shut the **** up and ask for a lawyer. Don't be a dick. Don't resist. Don't threaten. Just be do what is rightful for you to do and ask for a lawyer.

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Why is this a topic to argue over? It's a given right, it's common sense, and it's safe for everyone.
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No, common sense says you don't need to clam up unless you have something to hide.
 
Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

Mathematician said:
No, common sense says you don't need to clam up unless you have something to hide.
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No, common sense says "get a ****ing lawyer."
 
Kobie said:
So Sharpton saying the word "fight" is a call to violence. Okay.

I posted several other quotes of people using the term "fight" in reference to their particular struggles. I assume those are calls to violence as well? Or only when Al Sharpton is talking?
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Cultural context, were you quoting people who are alive today and were speaking to a current American demographic?
 
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