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Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

whysoserious said:
When is it ok to talk about race? When you want to? Because unless you're saying racism is dead, then it's got to be ok to talk about racism at some ****ing point.

So please, in all of your infinite wisdom on race, when is it ok for black people to talk about their feelings on racism in the United States?
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They don't need race baiters to tell them when to talk about race, do they?
 
apdst said:
Sharpton said, "fight". Fighting is violence.
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Fight quotes & quotations

“I am not only a pacifist but a militant pacifist. I am willing to fight for peace. Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war.” -- Albert Einstein
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“To be nobody but yourself in a world that's doing its best to make you somebody else, is to fight the hardest battle you are ever going to fight. Never stop fighting.” -- e.e. cummings
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“Joy lies in the fight, in the attempt, in the suffering involved, not in the victory itself” -- Mahatma Gandhi
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“We are twice armed if we fight with faith.” -- Plato
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You're stretching if you think the use of the word "fight," a word often synonymous with "struggle," is automatically a call to violence. Really, REALLY stretching.
 
US Conservative said:
Facts are facts. And your ideology forces you to pretend they are not. You can't fix something until you admit that there's a problem Kobie. Stop making convenient excuses.
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You haven't addressed a single argument I've actually made this entire thread, you just prattle on with your garbage rhetoric about "ideology." Leave me the **** alone if you can't actually do so.
 
US Conservative said:
They don't need race baiters to tell them when to talk about race, do they?
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I don't even think you know what that means, because it literally makes no sense. You can't just go around throwing "race baiters" into every sentence and expect to sound smart.

Answer the ****ing question. Is racism dead? If not, what occasion is it not "race baiting" to talk about race?
 
whysoserious said:
I don't even think you know what that means, because it literally makes no sense. You can't just go around throwing "race baiters" into every sentence and expect to sound smart.

Answer the ****ing question. Is racism dead? If not, what occasion is it not "race baiting" to talk about race?
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Americans have been talking about "race" for 200 years and there doesn't seem much left to actually talk about. Isn't it about time people moved on??
 
Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

US Conservative said:
Yes, and both the cop and bystanders rapidly moved away from the guy because of his phone. These lefties never think anything through-they feel and emote.

Beyond that, if a cop were to question me, I dont plan on making any sudden movements like the dead thug. I swear these guys want to get shot-they resist, assault cops, etc and after they are shot our lefties forget about all of that and put it on the cop.
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In their world the cop is supposed to be shot, or beat up before any force can be used, and if he dies in the process, oh well...then it is the cops fault for even engaging in the first place.
 
Grant said:
Americans have been talking about "race" for 200 years and there doesn't seem much left to actually talk about. Isn't it about time people moved on??
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Ah, the "ignore it and it will go away" approach.
 
US Conservative said:
Kobie, if you dont stop dancing you are gonna get some blisters.
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By apdst's rationale, if a boxing metaphor is a call to violence, then Sarah Palin's “never retreat, instead RELOAD!” Facebook post is a call to shoot people. That's a very bad argument.
 
whysoserious said:
I don't even think you know what that means, because it literally makes no sense. You can't just go around throwing "race baiters" into every sentence and expect to sound smart.

Answer the ****ing question. Is racism dead? If not, what occasion is it not "race baiting" to talk about race?
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expecting sense or a straight answer from US Conservative is ... well, it ain't going to happen.
 
Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

j-mac said:
In their world the cop is supposed to be shot, or beat up before any force can be used, and if he dies in the process, oh well...then it is the cops fault for even engaging in the first place.
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Its never the fault of the guy assaulting the cop or resisting arrest, is it?
 
Kobie said:
By apdst's rationale, if a boxing metaphor is a call to violence, then Sarah Palin's “never retreat, instead RELOAD!” Facebook post is a call to shoot people. That's a very bad argument.
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How many race riots have occurred after Sarah Palin spoke?

See how reality mugs you?
 
US Conservative said:
How many race riots have occurred after Sarah Palin spoke?

See how reality mugs you?
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You're missing the point. The presence of riots does not magically make Sharpton's quote a call to violence. Unless you're arguing that a call to violence is only really a call to violence if violence follows it, QED.
 
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Kobie said:
You're missing the point. The presence of riots does not magically make Sharpton's quote a call to violence. Unless you're arguing that a call to violence is only really a call to violence if violence follows it, QED.

There have been riots when Sharpton has said nothing. See the Anaheim riots in 2012, under similar circumstances. I can't find a shred of evidence that Sharpton said a word about the subject, yet rioting occured.
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Sharptongue's rhetoric is not helpful. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Even Sharptonge.
 
Kobie said:
You're missing the point. The presence of riots does not magically make Sharpton's quote a call to violence. Unless you're arguing that a call to violence is only really a call to violence if violence follows it, QED.
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Sharpton's rhetoric has contributed to the violence. Particularly ironic to me is the fact that if the tables were reversed libs would be all over it.
Kobie, I think some introspection on your part is appropriate. You are simply picking the wrong hilltop to make a stand.
 
countryboy said:
Sharptongue's rhetoric is not helpful. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Even Sharptonge.
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Now, hold on. I never said it was HELPFUL. What I said was that it's not a call to violence, nor can people's actions be blamed on it any more than incendiary rhetoric by anyone else.
 
US Conservative said:
Sharpton's rhetoric has contributed to the violence.
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I know that's what you've been pushing; however, you have yet to provide any evidence whatsoever that it's actually true. However, it's good to see you've abandoned the lie that "Sharpton led rallies that called for dead cops."

US Conservative said:
Particularly ironic to me is the fact that if the tables were reversed libs would be all over it.
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Argument By Hypothetical; dismissed.

US Conservative said:
Kobie, I think some introspection on your part is appropriate. You are simply picking the wrong hilltop to make a stand.
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Your opinion is duly noted and summarily ignored.
 
Kobie said:
Now, hold on. I never said it was HELPFUL. What I said was that it's not a call to violence, nor can people's actions be blamed on it any more than incendiary rhetoric by anyone else.
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I disagree. If it's not helpful, in what way is it not helpful? I think you are either in denial, naive, or simply circling the wagons around one of your own. Nothing else makes any logical sense.
 
Kobie said:
I know that's what you've been pushing; however, you have yet to provide any evidence whatsoever that it's actually true. However, it's good to see you've abandoned the lie that "Sharpton led rallies that called for dead cops."



Argument By Hypothetical; dismissed.



Your opinion is duly noted and summarily ignored.
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Kobie, Sharptons rhetoric contributed to the deaths of two cops, who dont get to spend today with their families. Something for you to think about.
 
US Conservative said:
Kobie, Sharptons rhetoric contributed to the deaths of two cops, who dont get to spend today with their families. Something for you to think about.
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You're pulling an Excon ... when challenged, simply repeat the assertion, evidence-free. You are being dishonest as hell.
 
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