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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Another shooting of a young black man in Missouri, that had pulled a gun on the Officer. Couple miles away from Ferguson. The Officer did what he had to.....and deadly force was used. Immediately a band of protestors gather on the scene. Right away taunting the police and blaming them for killing another black man. It didn't matter the young black man pulled a gun. What say ye?







    BERKELEY, Missouri (AP) A suburban St. Louis police officer shot and killed a man who pointed a gun at him at a gas station late Tuesday, police said.

    A crowd of about 100 people were gathered early Wednesday at the scene in Berkeley, Missouri, a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot black 18-year-old Michael Brown in August. The protesters gathered early Wednesday milled around the gas pumps at the station, some taunting and yelling at police officers.

    Some had strands of yellow police-line tape draped around their neck, with others using it as a headband. Authorities from multiple agencies, some in riot gear, stood among the protesters.....snip~

    Police: Officer in Missouri shot, killed man who pulled gun
    Pull a gun on a cop, get shot. Nothing to protest here at all.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Give them what they want, no police. Their choice. I read that 93% of all blacks who are murdered are murdered by other blacks. I suppose this is perfectly okay with them. If so, let the protesters have they way. This has gone on long enough.
    Well that's a point CJ was making.....as BO, Holder, Sharptones, and Jesse Jackson ALL know that this issue of cops shooting blacks is not what is causing most young black men to be killed. Its crime, and those neighborhoods own residents usually validate it.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Pull a gun on a cop, get shot. Nothing to protest here at all.

    Heya Calamity. You weren't going with, the St Louis Rams lost.....were you?


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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    It's getting harder and harder to feel sorry for these goons.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Removed your passive aggressive whines and irrelevant strawmen to get to the actual useful substance of your post.

    So you admit that 9 out of 10 times the video will show useful information (as one would assume informatoin that vindicates the police would be useful to the investigation).

    You know another way of saying that the video would show useful information? Saying that the video would "shed more light" on what occured.

    Yet for some reason you responded to a post that said nothing but 1) get body cameras 2) they'll shed more light by saying "no it won't".

    So a body camera wouldn't have shed more light on the situation...even though you claim 9 times out of 10 the video would have information that vindicates the cop.

    Yeah, that makes sense.
    To those intent on hating on cops, nothing vindicating cops will make a difference so yeah, to them (and their apologists) body cameras will be absolutely useless for any kind of making a difference.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well that's a point CJ was making.....as BO, Holder, Sharptones, and Jesse Jackson ALL know that this issue of cops shooting blacks is not what is causing most young black men to be killed. Its crime, and those neighborhoods own residents usually validate it.
    Straw man. No one said anything remotely close to the argument you are "refuting".
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I am fine with protesting specific incidents of police brutality. I am fine with promotion of dialogue between communities. However...the second the dialogue goes to 'the cops (or as we see regularly 'the pigs') and people bashing and expressing hatred towards all cops or 'the cops' in general, the argument on brutality is lost.
    Agree entirely with you. This is one of those type of things I say routinely, not even related to this topic. It's evidence on this forum.

    When you use rhetoric or arguments that are ridiculous/hyperbolic/outright false in nature it immedietely damages your credability and the credability of the argument you're trying to make. Even if that argument was ultimately a solid and legitimate one, your attempt to actually win people over to your argument or have it taken seriously is amazingly damaged when you are building said argument on a foundation of problematic statements.

    My only point was that I see a very stark difference between pointing out instances of police "brutality" when they happen (or even trying to point out instances where it may be the case for closer look)...and pointing out instances of "brutality" by people of a particular race or religion.

    In the first case, you're pointing out civil servents...people employed on the tax payer dime, that are there to do a job because we as citizens have tacitly agreed to the social contract that makes their job even exist, and who are part of the governmental structure that is supposed to be serving us. In the second case you're pointing out private citizens.

    My point is simply that I see more legitimacy in protesting, or continually "pointing out", the former more so than the later.

    At no point am I suggesting nor implying that the WAY some people protest or point out those things are right, nor that the notion of over exaggeration or outright lying regarding those protests is okay.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Under your description. So under your story, why do you believe the victim "allegedly" pulled a gun on the officer? Makes you think what the outcome could have been if said "guy" states , "good evening officer, what can I do for you. I don't want you to be alarmed but I have a concealed weapon on me. I do have a permit".

    Do you have evidence that the patrol was not "routine"? Do you have evidence the store does like the police checking on his business?
    Do you have any evidence that the store has asked the police to come confront its customers? Do you have any evidence that the police confront it customers who do not fit a certain profile? Do you have any evidence that the Ferguson "routine patrol" involves stopping whites who are shopping, are on private property? Do you have any authority to suggest that people's rights only exist the police say they have some right?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Doesn't anybody have anything to say about post #66? I was hoping for more updated information that would support hypothesis A or B. I was hoping that here on DP people would have some sort of better info; in the Ukraine crisis threads often people from that area had compelling info/videos/pictures showing stuff that the regular media had yet not reported. This thread is discussing the general issues - race, police brutality, guns, etc. - but I haven't seen posts that have info or evidence that sheds more light on what happened.

    Should I try to post another thread to ask these questions? I thought this thread was the right place to raise these points but apparently nobody is interested in debating the basic facts in this incident but are rather going into other more general directions.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruchen View Post
    It's getting harder and harder to feel sorry for these goons.
    Therein lies the problem. The poster child for police violence against black people most definitely is not Michael Brown.

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