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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Exactly. What kind of training says to open fire in a store (with shoppers there) before even asking the guy to drop the gun?
    I don't know if they did or didn't - it's hard to see. They said they did. But that's the problem to me with the whole narrative:

    What movement could he make that is not threatening? Imagine standing in Walmart with a toy gun, and then next thing you know someone is screaming at you. You're going to turn that way, and then you're going to get shot.

    Apparently, people on here have no issue with that, but it seems crazy to me.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't know if they did or didn't - it's hard to see. They said they did. But that's the problem to me with the whole narrative:

    What movement could he make that is not threatening? Imagine standing in Walmart with a toy gun, and then next thing you know someone is screaming at you. You're going to turn that way, and then you're going to get shot.

    Apparently, people on here have no issue with that, but it seems crazy to me.
    You were there ? Or are you going off the video ?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't know if they did or didn't - it's hard to see. They said they did. But that's the problem to me with the whole narrative:

    What movement could he make that is not threatening? Imagine standing in Walmart with a toy gun, and then next thing you know someone is screaming at you. You're going to turn that way, and then you're going to get shot.

    Apparently, people on here have no issue with that, but it seems crazy to me.
    Yeah. Not many of us have the "coolness" to think "Instead of turning toward a guy who is screaming at me, I'm going to stand totally still."

    An innocent man is not expecting to be accosted by cops while shopping at WalMart.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You were there ? Or are you going off the video ?
    Going off the video and the police statements. What do you think you would have done?

    Keep in mind, you're standing in an aisle with a toy gun and you have no idea anyone has called the cops on you.

    Cops kill man in Wal-Mart carrying an air rifle that he might have planned to buy
    She said after police ordered Crawford to put down the weapon, "I heard two shots after I saw him turn. He still had the weapon in his hand."
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Exactly. Why didn't they call from their car asking him to put the gun down? They could stay behind their car doors if they fear the gun is a real one. They didn't even try to negotiate or ask him to lower the gun.

    I agree part of that is the communications issue. But a 12 yr old boy is dead because he had a toy gun. Don't we want to examine why and fix whatever the problem(s) was/were?

    I just didn't think cops were in the habit of firing at 12 yr old boys without at least asking them to drop the gun and waiting a few seconds.

    1. no way to tell they were dealing with a 12 year old
    2. the gun the boy was pointing at cops didnt look like a toy

    are there things i dont like about this story......you bet

    why in the **** are manufacturers still allowed to make 'toys" so realistic? why arent they at least bright yellow, or green, or something that any cop in the nation would automatically see and KNOW that the weapon pointed at them isnt DEADLY

    a lot of you seem to want to point fingers at the cops saying "you should have known"

    it doesnt work that way.....they have split seconds to make life or death decisions

    in this case, the decision led to tragic results......

    but wanting to place the blame on the officers who responded is just idiotic

    communications broke down......and the "toy" was way too realistic

    you want blame....point it in those directions
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    1. no way to tell they were dealing with a 12 year old
    2. the gun the boy was pointing at cops didnt look like a toy

    are there things i dont like about this story......you bet

    why in the **** are manufacturers still allowed to make 'toys" so realistic? why arent they at least bright yellow, or green, or something that any cop in the nation would automatically see and KNOW that the weapon pointed at them isnt DEADLY

    a lot of you seem to want to point fingers at the cops saying "you should have known"

    it doesnt work that way.....they have split seconds to make life or death decisions

    in this case, the decision led to tragic results......

    but wanting to place the blame on the officers who responded is just idiotic

    communications broke down......and the "toy" was way too realistic

    you want blame....point it in those directions
    You're either being purposefully obtuse or blindly lopsided in your thinking.

    Why did the police bumrush the scene like that? Why didn't they dash out of the car with their guns drawn and ready before the kid could even respond? Why did they lie and say the kid pointed the gun at them (he never withdrew the toy, so the whole canard about the red tip being removed is pointless and used strictly as a diversion)?
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    You're either being purposefully obtuse or blindly lopsided in your thinking.

    Why did the police bumrush the scene like that? Why didn't they dash out of the car with their guns drawn and ready before the kid could even respond? Why did they lie and say the kid pointed the gun at them (he never withdrew the toy, so the whole canard about the red tip being removed is pointless and used strictly as a diversion)?
    Maybe the police responded the way they did because of the chants and sing-alongs that have become so popular among the far left. Ferguson Protesters Chant: 'Deck The Halls With Rows Of Dead Cops' - Fox Nation
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Is there no assessing before the toy gun is pulled? For instance, "hey we just got a call that a young kid is pointing a gun at people, though the caller said it could be a toy... maybe we should figure out if he has a real gun before we shoot him?" The video is insane. They know this kid might have a gun or a toy gun, so their genius ****ing plan is to park the car right in front of him, and if he makes a sudden movement to put him on blast?
    The dumb **** kid was waving it around and shouting threats. Why should the cops risk their lives and the lives of others over "could be"?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Why is it never the police who are at fault when a person of color is killed by them?
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Take your race card and cram it
    ... down your throat? I'm mean, if you insist, sure.
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