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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You have very powerful defense mechanisms.
    And you are utterly clueless about me. Quit being all passive aggressive and ****.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    I don't think we are really at odds. My point was from the perspective of a non criminal. If a cop in a parking lot of target ask to see in my bag, I will show him the contents and the receipt in order to avoid getting arrested, getting a lawyer and having him show him the items and receipt. If I at all think that there are serious charges about to be levied at me I will certainly take advantage of all my rights.
    I don't think we are either.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Translation: insanity.

    Look, dude... no one is investigating my actions. No one probably ever will. But every police action is investigated internally, judicially and by the public.
    Which Judge investigated the Ferguson decision? Get real. Judges don't hear cases that are never brought. Baaaaaah.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's going to be mostly common sense. I've taken a low level criminal justice class and low-level general lawyerings classes. But this is just a common sense idea.

    When in doubt, shut the **** up and ask for a lawyer. Don't be a dick. Don't resist. Don't threaten. Just be do what is rightful for you to do and ask for a lawyer.

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    Why is this a topic to argue over? It's a given right, it's common sense, and it's safe for everyone.
    if you are the "target" of an investigation...maybe

    if the cop is just asking general questions.....maybe not

    most of us at one time or another have probably been stopped in our lives

    for me...probably half a dozen times in 50+ years

    answered the questions......and was on my merry way

    about 20 years ago, i was in a neighborhood....searching for a address where i was supposed to meet a few people

    going like 5 mph down the street....looking for house numbers

    cop pulls up behind.....flips his lights.....

    you know the story.....why are you here.....what are you doing....etc

    house was about a block further up.....he led the way......

    sometimes it is better to talk to them....
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well that's a point CJ was making.....as BO, Holder, Sharptones, and Jesse Jackson ALL know that this issue of cops shooting blacks is not what is causing most young black men to be killed. Its crime, and those neighborhoods own residents usually validate it.
    They accept it as long as it black on black crime.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I guess everyone missed the "depending on what the officer is trying to talk to you about" part. Obviously if it's just some kind of routine thing, you answer the questions as best you can but if there is some sort of crime committed and for any reason you are considered suspect, the best advice is to keep your mouth shut.
    There was nothing "routine" about my contact with the officer and he was definitely probing for potential criminal activity. Apparently the right call then would be to not answer his questions. Silly me, I actually wanted him to know that I wasn't a burglar and oddly, he didn't try to insist that I was one once I could answer his questions (and he finally allowed me to grab my ID). Clearly I was lucky to be dealing the last cop on earth that didn't just throw me on the ground and shoot me

    Cue - "But I would never ever commit a crime or be questioned for such a crime either and if I was I have nothing to hide" responses. The right to remain silent is one of the best legal rights we have that's why it was put in our constitution. I'm surprised, or maybe not, most people take such a thing for granted.
    That's funny, the right to a jury trial is also in the Constitution but people still seem to only support that right as long as the jury comes back with a decision they agree with.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    And you are utterly clueless about me. Quit being all passive aggressive and ****.
    This one is called projection.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    I don't think we are really at odds. My point was from the perspective of a non criminal. If a cop in a parking lot of target ask to see in my bag, I will show him the contents and the receipt in order to avoid getting arrested, getting a lawyer and having him show him the items and receipt. If I at all think that there are serious charges about to be levied at me I will certainly take advantage of all my rights.
    Isn't it interesting that you are only obeying because you want to avoid aggression on your person and spending time in an unsafe place? You're not obeying because you respect the guy or that you respect the rules, but that you know the guy can **** up your life. What a wonderful system we have here.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    if you are the "target" of an investigation...maybe

    if the cop is just asking general questions.....maybe not

    most of us at one time or another have probably been stopped in our lives

    for me...probably half a dozen times in 50+ years

    answered the questions......and was on my merry way

    about 20 years ago, i was in a neighborhood....searching for a address where i was supposed to meet a few people

    going like 5 mph down the street....looking for house numbers

    cop pulls up behind.....flips his lights.....

    you know the story.....why are you here.....what are you doing....etc

    house was about a block further up.....he led the way......

    sometimes it is better to talk to them....
    Who cares why I'm there? Who am I harming by driving around on the road?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    about 20 years ago, i was in a neighborhood....searching for a address where i was supposed to meet a few people going like 5 mph down the street....looking for house numbers cop pulls up behind.....flips his lights.....you know the story.....why are you here.....what are you doing....etc. house was about a block further up.....he led the way......sometimes it is better to talk to them....
    Look, it's your discretion. But if you ever aren't sure, there is no harm in remaining silent and asking for a lawyer. In the case you mentioned, I would probably explain myself; but I don't have to and it should work out the same - just with a lot more hoops.

    The one thing you don't want to do is resist lawful question and arrests or pull a ****ing gun.
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