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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    Thanks, I mostly come here to read other peoples perspectives on things. You and a few other seem to mostly have the same view as I do on a lot of things and say it better than I generally would.

    it is always nice when your views are shared by others

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    At which point he can place you under arrest and hold you for 24 hours.

    Is your next piece of advice to resist arrest?
    Why would I resist arrest? If I was arrested for no reason and treated unjustly I would sue their ****ing balls off, though.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    What this cop did was outrageous. Any reasonable person understands immediately that it was his duty to let the suspect shoot him. Obviously this young man was simply trying to defend himself against the danger--which is was entirely reasonable of him to perceive--that the white cop was about to murder him.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    You seem to be freaking out over it, I have no issue with it at all. Cooperate to me is "just answering his questions". If your a paranoid nut case that thinks cops are trying to find a reason to arrest you then yes just shut up and lawyer up. Just remember that to do that means you will probably be taken in until they can figure out why you need a lawyer.
    I don't think you could find one person who studies law that thinks "just answer the officers" questions is a good idea.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Clamming up is also considered obstruction. So if you even just look like someone they are looking for and get all uppity, expect to be treated as such.
    If you refuse to defer to the authority vested in the officer by the state you live in. I don't care how much of a beat down you receive.
    No, it's not.

    What's the first Miranda right? LOL
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's horrible advice. Depending on what the officer is trying to talk to you about, I would greatly advise against that.

    Instead, ask if you are being arrested or if you should get a lawyer.
    I guess everyone missed the "depending on what the officer is trying to talk to you about" part. Obviously if it's just some kind of routine thing, you answer the questions as best you can but if there is some sort of crime committed and for any reason you are considered suspect, the best advice is to keep your mouth shut. Cue - "But I would never ever commit a crime or be questioned for such a crime either and if I was I have nothing to hide" responses. The right to remain silent is one of the best legal rights we have that's why it was put in our constitution. I'm surprised, or maybe not, most people take such a thing for granted.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If asking an officer "why am I being arrested" or "should I get a lawyer" escalates a situation, then the police have a problem and need to be re-trained. Thank you for unwittingly highlighting the problem of excessive force and please stay in Canada.
    Yes, asking questions and expecting answers is excessive force. I don't care if you ask either of those questions, but if you just clam up and are not going to answer then he has not choice but to escalate the situation and take you in. His job is to figure out what is going on, why he was called here or what you are up to, he gets paid for that. I really liked the classy part about stay out of our country at the end also.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, it's always wise to escalate a harmless situation when simple manners would suffice. No matter who it is, if someone comes up to me and asks me a question, I try to answer it if I can or let them know that I can't. Since I'm not a criminal nor do I have a giant chip on my shoulder, I tend to treat police officers in the same manner. And just to be clear, that's not a hypothetical. I've been out walking my dog and been approached by a police car asking if I've seen something or someone they're looking for or been advised about something. I don't immediately go into full defense attorney combat mode just because they're police officers.

    Respect and decency towards one another can go a long, long way.
    How is asking for a lawyer and being silent, both ****ing rights in this country, being disrespectful?
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Races and religions are not responsible for policing each other, police are.
    That's the weakest excuse for practiced bigotry I've ever seen.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't think you could find one person who studies law that thinks "just answer the officers" questions is a good idea.
    How much time have you spent studying law and what sample size did you use for that statement of yours?

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