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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You passive-aggressively accused me of arguing that it's never okay to shoot a Black person in response to post when I literally said that it was okay to shoot a Black person.
    Oh don't give me that lame lib debating tactic of accusing people of being "passive aggressive". I was no such thing, and you know it. I am entitled to my opinion, same as you (as wrong headed as it is).

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, it's always wise to escalate a harmless situation when simple manners would suffice. No matter who it is, if someone comes up to me and asks me a question, I try to answer it if I can or let them know that I can't. Since I'm not a criminal nor do I have a giant chip on my shoulder, I tend to treat police officers in the same manner. And just to be clear, that's not a hypothetical. I've been out walking my dog and been approached by a police car asking if I've seen something or someone they're looking for or been advised about something. I don't immediately go into full defense attorney combat mode just because they're police officers.

    Respect and decency towards one another can go a long, long way.
    Two parish deputies showed up a buddy's house one evening, responding to a report of domestic violence. He and his wife were obviously puzzled beyond belief and told them that there was no trouble.

    They didn't get belligerent. They didn't cause a scene. They didn't catch an attitude. They said, "come on in...see for yourself. Talk to the kids. My grandma stays with us, talk to her".
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Just as an aside - with this post, and your post previous to this one, I have to wonder why such a sane voice, a voice of reason, isn't posting more in the almost 4 years you've been a member. Your contributions would be valuable. Thanks for the input here.
    Thanks, I mostly come here to read other peoples perspectives on things. You and a few other seem to mostly have the same view as I do on a lot of things and say it better than I generally would.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's horrible advice. Depending on what the officer is trying to talk to you about, I would greatly advise against that.

    Instead, ask if you are being arrested or if you should get a lawyer.
    This past summer I was out watering the last remaining live vegitation in my side yard. It was the weekend so I was dressed in my rattiest shorts and t-shirt, hadn't shaved and as I was just outside my house, didn't think to grab any sort of ID. Despite the water hose in my hand, one of my neighbors called the police to report my suspicious activity. Officer shows up and starts questioning me. He tries to make it seem like harmless small talk, asking me the names of my dogs, what year my car sitting in the drive was, things like that but I totally got that he was testing me, seeing if my answers made sense. I guess I could have clammed up and been incensed that he we questioning me of all people (why my innocence should have been obvious to him) and tell him last I checked this was still America and demand a lawyer, but all that would have done is drug out what was a twenty minute encounter. I just can't be too upset with someone who was actually potentially protecting my house. I can't even be too pissed at whichever neighbor reported me (even though I do think it a little silly).

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Oh don't give me that lame lib debating tactic of accusing people of being "passive aggressive". I was no such thing, and you know it. I am entitled to my opinion, same as you (as wrong headed as it is).
    I'm not criticizing your opinion; I'm criticizing your allergy to the facts. The fact is that you accused me of doing something in response to a post where I did the exact opposite. Do you realize that you could have just said, "Oh. I didn't see that you had said that. My mistake."? Jesus Christ, dude. Integrity is a lot easier than this **** show.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, it's always wise to escalate a harmless situation when simple manners would suffice.
    If asking an officer "why am I being arrested" or "should I get a lawyer" escalates a situation, then the police have a problem and need to be re-trained. Thank you for unwittingly highlighting the problem of excessive force and please stay in Canada.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    1. The police said he pulled a gun. If they police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot him. I'm not inclined to just accept what the police say just because they said it.

    2. The police said he pulled a gun AFTER the protesters came to the scene. Therefore, asking why protesters were mad in light of the fact that the police said he pulled a gun is nonsensical since the police hadn't even provided their side of the story yet.

    3. I support these protests wholeheartedly and while I can understand why some people would "taunt" officers (built up anger and frustration), it bothers me. I don't think that that is the way to express one's frustration.
    The only reason you support the protesters is that you didn't take the time to read on the incident. The convenience store footage has been released and the guy did indeed pull a gun. It was an unregistered gun with the numbers filed off. This thug has a long record with the police.

    The protesters should be kicked in the nuts repeatedly to ensure that this sort of stupidity isn't passed down to future generations.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This past summer I was out watering the last remaining live vegitation in my side yard. It was the weekend so I was dressed in my rattiest shorts and t-shirt, hadn't shaved and as I was just outside my house, didn't think to grab any sort of ID. Despite the water hose in my hand, one of my neighbors called the police to report my suspicious activity. Officer shows up and starts questioning me. He tries to make it seem like harmless small talk, asking me the names of my dogs, what year my car sitting in the drive was, things like that but I totally got that he was testing me, seeing if my answers made sense. I guess I could have clammed up and been incensed that he we questioning me of all people (why my innocence should have been obvious to him) and tell him last I checked this was still America and demand a lawyer, but all that would have done is drug out what was a twenty minute encounter. I just can't be too upset with someone who was actually potentially protecting my house. I can't even be too pissed at whichever neighbor reported me (even though I do think it a little silly).
    You can certainly use your own discretion on when it is appropriate to talk with police. That seems like a reasonable situation. Another question you might answer is "do you have a weapon on you?".
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    kinda depends on what the question is
    Agreed - it depends on the question. But if you aren't sure, it's better to be silent and request a lawyer than it is to do anything else.
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