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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I'm sorry, but telling someone they should just answer police questions is not good advice. In fact, it's probably the worst advice you could give.

    That doesn't mean you should be uncooperative, either.
    I know, I have seen the stupid video. You do it your way, I'll do it my way, and this idiot will do it his way. In the end, the people that stay alive and out of jail will be the winners. Having had maybe 50 interactions with on duty law enforcement over 40 years I really am not scared of being railroaded or falsely imprisoned by some crazy cop. Most of them appreciate honesty and the ability to do what they need to do and get on with their day.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I guess white guys who are quarterbacks, even bad ones, are okay.

    There were a lot of police rolling around.
    And that's hard to understand since black people never resist arrest or assault police officers.


    Until you post some evidence to support this I'm going to believe that your post is BS.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    One thing that would help, I think, is that police leaders re-train officers to have body cameras and dashboard cameras on at all times, and that this footage be immediately and transparently available in any doubtful case. Trust and accountability must be restored from all sides, otherwise we are all as a society headed into a lot of trouble (which has started already, like the crazy guy who shot and killed two officers in New York City).

    Me, while I wouldn't endorse for a second any case of unjustified police brutality, I'd also want my home and family and city to be protected by police.
    This may sound like a good idea and all, and I'm sure you're extremely noble regarding this kind of thing, but I think it's not nearly as simple as you suggest. The reality is there's likely to be a number of such instances where it's not clearly black and white. Even where it is black and white, undoubtably there are still going to be people who complain and simply use it to their advantage.

    For example, there are those who are screaming that a cop should NEVER shoot an unarmed person. If a body camera shows a suspect attempting to get the officers gun and physically threatening the officer, it's going to lead some to suggest it was justified (there's reason to say the officer felt that his life was being threatened) while others will scream "See! He was UNARMED!"

    Being a sports fan and seeing the vast amount of monday morning quarterbacking...judging situations not based on the context of when and how they were actually happening, but rather judging them with full knowledge of how the situation played out...I just don't trust that somehow we'd see any more true "justice" done by making these kind of things immedietely available for public consumption in an unfiltered sort of way. To me that doesn't create any net fix of issues, it simply fixes some while creating a slew of others.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Because rain is about the weather.
    into the spiked eggnog early I see.

    Have a Merry one.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Did you miss the part of my post where I said : "If the police are telling the truth, then it was permissible to shoot him."? I literally said, in the post, you quoted, that shooting him would have been fine if he pulled a gun.
    Yeah, so?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    I know, I have seen the stupid video. You do it your way, I'll do it my way, and this idiot will do it his way. In the end, the people that stay alive and out of jail will be the winners. Having had maybe 50 interactions with on duty law enforcement over 40 years I really am not scared of being railroaded or falsely imprisoned by some crazy cop. Most of them appreciate honesty and the ability to do what they need to do and get on with their day.
    What stupid video? All of them? You gave a blanket statement about how to interact with police, and you gave a markedly wrong statement. Telling people to "just answer the police's questions" is one of the worst bits of advice I've ever heard. Shut up, cooperate, and get a lawyer. That's the right advice. If you follow that advice you:

    1) Should not be hurt
    2) Should get the best possible defense against whatever charge may be levied

    Do you really have an issue with that?
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I claimed that it wouldn't make any difference to the haters. Here's the post;
    yes, there's the post, in response to a persons claim that it will shed more light on the situation.

    And your very first response to his statement (which had nothing to do with "haters") was your claim that...

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor
    No it won't.
    Which is simply false. A video from the officers POV, in better quality than the horrible gas statoin camera, would ABSOLUTELY shed more light on what occured during this situation.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I'm sorry, but telling someone they should just answer police questions is not good advice. In fact, it's probably the worst advice you could give.

    That doesn't mean you should be uncooperative, either.
    Clamming up is also considered obstruction. So if you even just look like someone they are looking for and get all uppity, expect to be treated as such.
    If you refuse to defer to the authority vested in the officer by the state you live in. I don't care how much of a beat down you receive.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The one showing a guy being harrassed by a police officer because he was shopping while black.
    Yeah, there's no video definitively showing that what so ever. At least in the video you can clearly say there's evidence of the individual pointing something at the officer. There's absolutely NOTHING IN THE VIDEO providing a shred of evidence that anything was occuring because he was "shopping while black". But nice job attempting to present your baseless complete congesture as some kind of fact.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yeah, so?
    You passive-aggressively accused me of arguing that it's never okay to shoot a Black person in response to post when I literally said that it was okay to shoot a Black person.

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