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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The one showing a guy being harrassed by a police officer because he was shopping while black.
    Why are you making this about race?

    So if a police officer approaches anyone its harassment?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    I don't understand this ****. If a cop wants to talk to you the appropriate response is to just answer his questions. How ****ing hard is this. If you perceive it as harassment you take that up with his boss, not him, in the street.

    Cops can be good, bad and all shades in between. Generally, only stupid people put themselves in a situation where a cop would kill them.
    That's horrible advice. Depending on what the officer is trying to talk to you about, I would greatly advise against that.

    Instead, ask if you are being arrested or if you should get a lawyer.
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Why are you making this about race?

    So if a police officer approaches anyone its harassment?
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    True, and true. The main issue in this case, though, is whether or not the teen pointed a gun at the cop. I don't think this point has been clearly established yet, given some strange circumstances I detailed earlier. If the the teen did point a gun at the officer, case closed. If he didn't, then all hell breaks loose, as we'd be facing a major cover-up happening in the middle of an already explosive situation.

    One thing that would help, I think, is that police leaders re-train officers to have body cameras and dashboard cameras on at all times, and that this footage be immediately and transparently available in any doubtful case. Trust and accountability must be restored from all sides, otherwise we are all as a society headed into a lot of trouble (which has started already, like the crazy guy who shot and killed two officers in New York City).

    Me, while I wouldn't endorse for a second any case of unjustified police brutality, I'd also want my home and family and city to be protected by police.

    The police serve society in a very essential job (and a difficult, honorable, and dangerous and even heroic one); on the other hand, we do need our police officers to be highly trained, responsible (as in, using the right level of force required by the circumstances), and accountable if they stray (with non-malicious human error being taken into account as attenuating circumstance, but malicious and deliberate misuse of force or cover-ups being severely punished). We need our citizens to be equally law-abiding, respectful of officers when the police are doing their job appropriately, and accountable for things like violent protests and looting. We need our criminals to be caught, prosecuted, and killed when justified (as in self-defense when they are trying to kill an officer). In summary, we need a state of law where all parties behave within it.

    Unfortunately as a society we seem to be currently far from the ideal I've just stated.
    Good post. What's most often overlooked in the "hold them to a higher standard" crowd is that citizens should then also be held to a higher standards in how they deal with officers. Typically though, they think holding cops "to a higher standard" simply means that people can be just a douchey or even threatening to cops and cops should do nothing but accept it with detached bemusement.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If I post daily some very REAL accounts of brutality committed by black people, will you begin protesting 'the blacks'? Or will you join others tripping over yourself to defend them and point out that a small minority of black people do not represent black people? What about Muslims? If I post daily articles (with video to enhance the gore) of Muslims committing attrocities, will you too then wholeheartedly join in protests against 'the Muslims'?
    Races and religions are not responsible for policing each other, police are.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No it won't. Haters will still rally against cops no matter what any video shows.
    What do they want? Dead cops. When do they want it? Now!


    What we need is some patience. When do we need it?- Right fricking NOW!!

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I predict that Santa Claus will be making a long delivery trip with with his reindeer and sleigh tonight.

    And I'll bet that some people will be getting guns for Christmas. I hope that they don't shoot their eye out!
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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's horrible advice. Depending on what the officer is trying to talk to you about, I would greatly advise against that.

    Instead, ask if you are being arrested or if you should get a lawyer.
    True, I guess if your coming out of a gas station at midnight with a gun you may have reason to keep your mouth shut. Pointing said gun at the officer when he tries to talk to you is the point at which you become stupid enough to get shot by a cop.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Races and religions are not responsible for policing each other, police are.
    Who polices the police?

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Who polices the police?
    It used to be the law itself, now... not so much.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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