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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Another shooting of a young black man in Missouri, that had pulled a gun on the Officer. Couple miles away from Ferguson. The Officer did what he had to.....and deadly force was used. Immediately a band of protestors gather on the scene. Right away taunting the police and blaming them for killing another black man. It didn't matter the young black man pulled a gun.
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    BERKELEY, Missouri (AP) A suburban St. Louis police officer shot and killed a man who pointed a gun at him at a gas station late Tuesday, police said.

    A crowd of about 100 people were gathered early Wednesday at the scene in Berkeley, Missouri, a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot black 18-year-old Michael Brown in August. The protesters gathered early Wednesday milled around the gas pumps at the station, some taunting and yelling at police officers.

    Some had strands of yellow police-line tape draped around their neck, with others using it as a headband. Authorities from multiple agencies, some in riot gear, stood among the protesters.....snip~

    Police: Officer in Missouri shot, killed man who pulled gun


    Anyone who points a gun at anyone, including cops, should expect to be shot.

    The 2nd Amendment doesn't give anyone the right to point guns at people.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Straw man. No one said anything remotely close to the argument you are "refuting".


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    From my perspective, this is part of the real problem when it comes to credibility and moving forward. The fact that the black community and black leadership around the US and into the highest reaches of government such as the Mayor of NYC, the US Attorney General, and even the President of the United States, would use Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and now this miscreant as symbols to fight for just makes common sense people roll their eyes and discount any true, serious, complaints black communities may have about police brutality.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Anyone who points a gun at anyone, including cops, should expect to be shot.

    The 2nd Amendment doesn't give anyone the right to point guns at people.
    You got that Right SN.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Get the body camera implemented. That will shed more light.


    Will it stop people from pointing guns at cops?

    That appears to be what caused this.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Do you have any evidence that the store has asked the police to come confront its customers? Do you have any evidence that the police confront it customers who do not fit a certain profile? Do you have any evidence that the Ferguson "routine patrol" involves stopping whites who are shopping, are on private property? Do you have any authority to suggest that people's rights only exist the police say they have some right?
    Answering questions with questions.

    Unlike you, I will wait for the investigation to be completed. Unlike you, I don't automatically accept law enforcement is bad.

    Have you asked the police to patrol your area you live in or do that as a routine?

    So your making this about race?

    " Do you have any authority to suggest that people's rights only exist the police say they have some right?" What?

    Does this forum come under free speech?

    (see, I can play answer a question with questions game also.)

    No I do not have the info about patrols. You in your statement questioned if it was routine. Its your claim to support not mine.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Will it stop people from pointing guns at cops?

    That appears to be what caused this.
    Now you've done it. Zyphlin will be here shortly to let you know how wrong your take on that post is.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Answering questions with questions.

    Unlike you, I will wait for the investigation to be completed. Unlike you, I don't automatically accept law enforcement is bad.

    Have you asked the police to patrol your area you live in or do that as a routine?

    So your making this about race?

    " Do you have any authority to suggest that people's rights only exist the police say they have some right?" What?

    Does this forum come under free speech?

    (see, I can play answer a question with questions game also.)

    No I do not have the info about patrols. You in your statement questioned if it was routine. Its your claim to support not mine.
    Apparently unlike you I watch the video.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Misleading headline. They left and the "and" to make it appear as if a a police officer had been shot.
    Guns should be banned for use by the general public.
    Once that happens, we can start to demilitarize the police.

    Even black cops feel like they are racially profiled when off duty (Off duty, black cops in New York feel threat from fellow police )


    Not going to happen. :

    Did you ever hear of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? That won't be going away anytime soon.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun..... [W:22]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Anyone who points a gun at anyone, including cops, should expect to be shot.

    The 2nd Amendment doesn't give anyone the right to point guns at people.
    True, and true. The main issue in this case, though, is whether or not the teen pointed a gun at the cop. I don't think this point has been clearly established yet, given some strange circumstances I detailed earlier. If the the teen did point a gun at the officer, case closed. If he didn't, then all hell breaks loose, as we'd be facing a major cover-up happening in the middle of an already explosive situation.

    One thing that would help, I think, is that police leaders re-train officers to have body cameras and dashboard cameras on at all times, and that this footage be immediately and transparently available in any doubtful case. Trust and accountability must be restored from all sides, otherwise we are all as a society headed into a lot of trouble (which has started already, like the crazy guy who shot and killed two officers in New York City).

    Me, while I wouldn't endorse for a second any case of unjustified police brutality, I'd also want my home and family and city to be protected by police.

    The police serve society in a very essential job (and a difficult, honorable, and dangerous and even heroic one); on the other hand, we do need our police officers to be highly trained, responsible (as in, using the right level of force required by the circumstances), and accountable if they stray (with non-malicious human error being taken into account as attenuating circumstance, but malicious and deliberate misuse of force or cover-ups being severely punished). We need our citizens to be equally law-abiding, respectful of officers when the police are doing their job appropriately, and accountable for things like violent protests and looting. We need our criminals to be caught, prosecuted, and killed when justified (as in self-defense when they are trying to kill an officer). In summary, we need a state of law where all parties behave within it.

    Unfortunately as a society we seem to be currently far from the ideal I've just stated.
    Last edited by GreatNews2night; 12-24-14 at 12:28 PM.

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    Re: Police: Officer in Missouri shot, Killed man who Pulled Gun.....

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not going to happen. :

    Did you ever hear of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? That won't be going away anytime soon.
    The local governments are imploding.

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