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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    You haven't said anything remotely intelligent on the subject so I am asking for an actual reason not some moronic Putin propaganda machine made up reason.
    Fair enough. So shut up and don't respond.

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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    On that I will agree with you
    Well I'll be.

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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I can't tell if Putin is forcing you to post this, or if you're just trolling us. I think it's adorable you think it's wrong that Ukraine do what Ukraine wants without Russian say. It's called "Freedom". Right now, Putin is violating that freedom. The entire world knows it....
    Yeah right. You have added much insight into the matter. Hip hip hurray for you.

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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Fair enough. So shut up and don't respond.
    Why should I shut up you are the one making stupid statements about nukes in Ukraine. You would be the one to stop spewing posting as there is nothing but nonsense coming from you.
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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Putin has become mostly a laughing stock, although an extremely RICH clown with $40,000,000,000.00.

    When Putin started hinting that he's so unstable me might go to nuclear war is when no leaders took him seriously anymore, just another wacked out nut case world leader going nowhere.
    Do you suppose he is a bigger laughing stock than Barack?

    Judging from how things have played out over the last 2 years, it appears to me that Vlad was raised playing chess, whilst Barack was raised playing checkers, if you get my drift.

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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well forgive me if I put words in your mouth, but it appeared that you wanted to put forward the notion that Putin's disapproval of what goes on in Ukraine is something that should be lightly brushed aside by the US.
    Never said it should be lightly brushed aside by the US or Ukraine. Only that Putin is acting like a bully.

    Although he does use threat and force, he also uses legitimate diplomatic and political means to achieve his ends. And again, that is something that not only Putin does, but the US as well.
    Again 2 wrongs don't make a right and the USA does not act like Putin they don't annex parts of other countries.
    Sorry moral equivalence doesn't exist and if it did it doesn't excuse Putin.

    Did I say that? I am merely pointing out the reality that both Russia and the US interfere in the foreign policy of other nations.
    You seem to indicate that Putin is justified because the USA doesn't always do things super nice, though they don't annex parts of other countries so the comparison is false.


    BTW, when was the last time there was an attempt to have either Mexico or Canada to join a military alliance that was formed to contain the US?
    1867. Canada was created largely to defend against the USA. Learn history before you post nonsense.


    Joining NATO COULD mean that nukes could be indeed placed on Russia's front door.
    Yeah just like the nukes NATO put in Romania? Lithuania? Latvia? The idea is absurd. I guess Putin should invade and annex those countries as well.....
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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Why should I shut up
    OK. Don't shut up. Talk until you are blue in the face.

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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Sorry, you are wrong. There is a substantial number of people in eastern Ukraine, Crimea, and elsewhere in Ukraine who identify themselves as being Russian and who those prefer to be more closely connected to Russia than Europe. That is what quite of bit of the fighting is about in eastern Ukraine.
    To your post:

    Not everyone in Ukraine wants to move closer to Europe and away from Russia
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    I replied "no, they don't."

    What we have here, Cool Hand Luke, is a failure to communicate.
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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    To your post:

    I replied "no, they don't."

    What we have here, Cool Hand Luke, is a failure to communicate.
    Sorry. My bad! I stand corrected sir!

    I was wondering why you said that. I just misunderstood.

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    Re: Outraging Russia, Ukraine takes big step toward NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    OK. Don't shut up. Talk until you are blue in the face.
    Continue to ignore the posts relevant to the discussion and focus in on the banter.
    That will convince people of the validity of your position
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