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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Nonsense. As soon as those "SF" units got across the border, they'd defect. NK is practically using vacuum tube computers and its military is malnourished, spare me the leet ninjas BS.
    they still trade with other countries, so they have access to modern computers. Just because they can't build something doesn't mean they don't have it.
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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They wouldn't even know how to use the phones they encountered, let alone complex equipment. 200k NKs with the ability to operate modern electronics would be a threat to his regime. It's so ridiculous. "I got 200k loyal super-ninjas!" And you believe it? haha

    The only real threats are the arty and self-nuking.
    This isn't the word of the NK regime, this is from defense analysts.

    Why are you being so obtuse?

    Tunnels have been found, NK SF have infiltrated South Korean shores in the past and not defected.

    Intelligence all suggests that this threat is real.

    You're the one saying they're "ninjas".

    I'm saying they're special forces that in the event of war will be given the order to infiltrate behind the front lines and cause as much havoc as they can possibly get away with... is that so far fetched?

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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Sony made a huge blunder by caving-now anytime they want something they will threaten to blow up an American movie theater. Its an act of war, either on us or Japan.
    I think Sony should make a movie about NK nuking China. That would be fun to watch.
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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This isn't the word of the NK regime, this is from defense analysts.

    Why are you being so obtuse?

    Tunnels have been found, NK SF have infiltrated South Korean shores in the past and not defected.

    Intelligence all suggests that this threat is real.

    You're the one saying they're "ninjas".

    I'm saying they're special forces that in the event of war will be given the order to infiltrate behind the front lines and cause as much havoc as they can possibly get away with... is that so far fetched?

    It's a ridiculous nonsense story that I notice you've provided no citation for.

    Problems:

    1. 200k highly trained electronics SF would be a threat to his regime.
    2. His army is malnourished.
    3. His equipment is outdated by decades.
    4. His ninjas would not be capable of operating modern tech.
    5. They would defect - all of them.


    It's a ridiculous pile of crap.

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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So hackers outside America target a japanese company's american film division separate of the U.S. government over a film depicting their leader being assassinated and that's somehow Obamas fault...

    Do you guys even try to make sense anymore?
    Do you ever? Because that's not what this is about.
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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Go back and read my thread starts-Im well aware of the routine, but this cyber warfare is new, and they are emboldened by our weak leader. They probably see what happened in Cuba as evidence our chump potus will cave.
    Why is it that every time the leader of a non-democratic nation goes rouge and makes veiled threats against the U.S. it's because the U.S. has "a weak leader" in the President (especially if said President is a Democrat)? Why can't it simply be a case of said nation's leader doing some chest thumping which North Korea tends to do just about once every other month?

    As to these war hawk politicians trying to call Kim-Jong Un's threat of violence if Sony releases the movie an act of war, I'd say it's more like an act of blackmail or a terrorist threat than an act of war. An act of war would be like the bombing of the USS Cole or a U.S. Embassy. Considering that all NorthKor has done is issue threats against a private enterprise NOT (as far as I know) against the U.S. government, NOT any U.S. government installations (i.e., the Pentagon), NOT any high-ranking U.S. officials/diplomats, I'd say claiming an "act of war" is very much over the top warmongering rhetoric.
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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The US could probably wipe out NK's nukes, leadership and artillery overnight.
    Wouldn't be soon enough to save the South or many of our troopz on the DMZ.
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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Has Obama responded to this yet? What if it was the Pentagon they hacked into? Or our electrical grid? I sure hope there is something going on behind the scenes that will make them think twice about attacking our networks again. I just don't think anything will be done.
    Considering that none of that has happened (yet), I'd say we (the U.S. government) need not respond too forcefully just yet. It's a private enterprise problem at this point. Sony Pictures (U.S.) simply needs to grow a pair, release the movie even if all they do is make it available on CD, strengthen their network security and move on about their business of doing business (among doing some damage control).

    At this point, it's really not necessary for the government to get too directly involved here.
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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Although North Korea has made provocations into almost an art form, North Korea knows in no uncertain terms that were it to attack U.S. bases in the Asian theater, and/or U.S. regional allies (South Korea and/or Japan), it would pay a devastating price. More than likely, given its "victory" in cyberspace, it will stay focused there. However, the U.S. can, with clear and decisive back channel communication to Pyongyang through Beijing, signal that North Korea would pay a prohibitive price were it to launch a cyber attack against critical U.S. infrastructure or sectors. Sony's capitulation has made it more difficult to establish overall deterrence in cyberspace, but that does not extend to critical sectors that would amount to a proverbial whole new ballgame.

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    Re: N. Korea threatens strikes on us amid hacking claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It's a terrifying prospect.

    Essentially even as nutty as they are... one would hope even Kim Jong Un and his miniors would recognize the limited capability they truly have.

    Alot of projections put their strike strategy at crashing the border with large scale tank and infantry pushes that'll be quickly crushed by air power.

    The only thing that's of true concern is the following.

    1) Artillery aimed at Seoul, regardless of how efficient air power is, it's going to take time to take down those batteries, meanwhile alot of people are going to die.

    2) and most important of all, North Korea is alleged to have about 200, 000 special forces.

    Intelligence suggests that in the event of a war these 200, 000 would infiltrate the ROK via small boats, tunnels and air.

    They are alleged to have ROK uniforms and will than dedicate themselves to causing the most havoc possible, attacking air bases, hospitals, schools, grocery stores, government buildings and just generally ****ing up the entire back line.

    (2) is of most concern. Every credible strategy and policy paper brings up this issue as the biggest reason why in the beginning of hostilities the North could cause real issues and may even initially gain serious ground.
    North Korea's military would probably just scatter, once out of Pyongyang's control.

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