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One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

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Zyphlin said:
What's clear.....he was motivated to kill the cops at least in large part due to disagreement and anger over the judgements in the Brown and Garner case.

What's questionable....if he also got the idea, or the motivation, to kill cops because protesters chanted and called for cops to be killed.
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Right! The anti-police rhetoric had nothing to do with it!
 
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Navy Pride said:
You have to lay at the feet of Sharpton this time.....He was leading the parade chanting "What doe we want? Dead cops.......When do we want them? Now....Well that scumbag got his wish.
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LOL......you got fooled by FauxNews again NP. When are you people ever going to learn. This myth has been debunked...it was FoxNews at it once again splicing together different footage to make it look like what you think you heard. Then again.....you would believe anything that Faux says.....
 
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Grant said:
Because they are just not very bright, and there is no kinder way to put it.. That's not an original idea by me, of course, because is has been repeated many times through recent decades by people who have studied the matter rather closely.

Flattering the intellect of those of lower intelligence is used by politicians to sway the more susceptible voters or by dictators who to attract their more murderous disciples. The East Germans were very good at the game, as were the Russians. Obama's not too shabby either.
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Ah yes. "THE LEFT IS STUPID." The hallmark of a mature, thoughtful argument.
 
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apdst said:
Right! The anti-police rhetoric had nothing to do with it!
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I'm not sure what this has to do with my post, since my post specifically suggested that anti-police rhetoric absolutely could have something to do with it.

The difference is we have unquestionable proof that he was motivated by Brown and Garner given his tweets. Thus far we have no proof that he was motivated or inspired by protesters chanting for cops to be killed or any other kind of anti-police rhetoric.

Unlike you I actually attempt to remain consistent in situations, I don't abandon principle whenever it suits my political needs. My stance on these kind of things have been consistent...whether it's been foolish liberals trying to blame tea partiers for the death of a census worker or declaring that islam caused someone to shoot up the holocaust museum or people jumping on the NY posts suggestion of who the boston bombers were or, in this case, people trying to claim for sure what motivated this guys attack.

We don't know the facts yet, and I'm not going to say something is definitely the case when there's no facts what so ever to back it up as definitive.

Thus, there's still a legitimate question if he was motivated to any degree by "anti-police rhetoric". I would think it's more likely to be "yes" than "no", but it's absolutely not a definitive thing at this point.
 
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Is "proof" now required for anyone to have an opinion or say where an injustice was committed? I just want to make sure I know the rules.

There is no proof that Darren Wilson killed Michael Brown because he was black. There is no proof that Eric Garner was killed because he was black. There is no proof that anyone was killed with his hands up in a "no shoot" stance.

So then these protests and lies will finally stop?
 
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tres borrachos said:
Is "proof" now required for anyone to have an opinion or say where an injustice was committed? I just want to make sure I know the rules.

There is no proof that Darren Wilson killed Michael Brown because he was black. There is no proof that Eric Garner was killed because he was black. There is no proof that anyone was killed with his hands up in a "no shoot" stance.

So then these protests and lies will finally stop?
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There is substantial evidence, however, that Garner's death came as a result of unnecessary force. Shouldn't THAT be protested?

(It is)
 
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Kobie said:
Ah yes. "THE LEFT IS STUPID."
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Not their leaders, just their followers. You must distinguish between the two. Conning leftists is the easiest path to political power. Think Obama!
 
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US Conservative said:
Kobie, why are you a Sharpton enabler?
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Because Sharpton is a MSNBC anchor. Have to root for the "home team". Either that or he/she is a highschooler and does not know Sharpton's history.
 
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Zyphlin said:
I'm not sure what this has to do with my post, since my post specifically suggested that anti-police rhetoric absolutely could have something to do with it.

The difference is we have unquestionable proof that he was motivated by Brown and Garner given his tweets. Thus far we have no proof that he was motivated or inspired by protesters chanting for cops to be killed or any other kind of anti-police rhetoric.

Unlike you I actually attempt to remain consistent in situations, I don't abandon principle whenever it suits my political needs. My stance on these kind of things have been consistent...whether it's been foolish liberals trying to blame tea partiers for the death of a census worker or declaring that islam caused someone to shoot up the holocaust museum or people jumping on the NY posts suggestion of who the boston bombers were or, in this case, people trying to claim for sure what motivated this guys attack.

We don't know the facts yet, and I'm not going to say something is definitely the case when there's no facts what so ever to back it up as definitive.

Thus, there's still a legitimate question if he was motivated to any degree by "anti-police rhetoric". I would think it's more likely to be "yes" than "no", but it's absolutely not a definitive thing at this point.
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The anti-police rhetoric has been going on, hot and heavy for month, it's obvious that it was a motivator. After all, he tweeted, [1 of ours, 2 of their's]. Now, I never said this clown was a rocket scientist and he's undoubtedly a follower, not a leader.
 
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washunut said:
Because Sharpton is a MSNBC anchor. Have to root for the "home team". Either that or he/she is a highschooler and does not know Sharpton's history.
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Wow, so much wrong in one post.

I'm well aware of Sharpton's history. I don't like Al Sharpton one bit. I think he's a self-aggrandizing blowhard who uses people's suffering to make money.

I'm not sure how pointing out blatantly obvious lies about what Sharpton has said in this matter makes me an "enabler" to anyone other than people who seem to think lying is a perfectly acceptable way to debate. Ends justifying the means and all.

Graduated high school 20 years ago, guy, and I watch about 30 seconds of MSNBC a month (flipping past the channel takes SOME time, after all). Come up with better material.
 
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Kobie said:
There is substantial evidence, however, that Garner's death came as a result of unnecessary force. Shouldn't THAT be protested?

(It is)
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Not by people who are chanting about death to cops.

And how do minorities, black lives matter, etc. play into the protests? Because that's what they say - it was all about him being black. It wasn't. There is no evidence of that at all. Period. Want to organize a march to have Grand Juries reformed? Great. Want to have a march to protest heavy men being surrounded by cops for selling illegal butts? I'm all for it. Lying and making it something it isn't? Gonna call you out on it.
 
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Kobie said:
There is substantial evidence, however, that Garner's death came as a result of unnecessary force. Shouldn't THAT be protested?

(It is)
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Except, the evidence you suggests exists, is a figment of one's imagination.
 
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washunut said:
Because Sharpton is a MSNBC anchor. Have to root for the "home team". Either that or he/she is a highschooler and does not know Sharpton's history.
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Thats true, but I know Kobe's job, and its not in academia.
 
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US Conservative said:
Kobie, you are first in line to defend Sharpton and thats low, in my book. Its uncalled for.
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So blatantly lying about Sharpton is fine. Calling out said lies is "low" and "uncalled for."

That's an odd way of looking at things.

Do you think lying about those you find politically untenable is OK?
 
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Kobie said:
See above, I added a question to my comment.
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Kobie I dont, but on the contrary, I do find the truth important. The truth is like kryptonite to the left and scum like sharpton who has blood on his hands.
 
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US Conservative said:
Kobie I dont, but on the contrary, I do find the truth important. The truth is like kryptonite to the left and scum like sharpton who has blood on his hands.
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Well, you've been running screaming from the truth this entire thread in your desperate attempt to play the blame game.
 
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Grant said:
Fact #4 shouldn't come as a surprise.
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>" He Was a Member of the Prison Gang, the Black Guerilla Family "<

The Obama connection.

And I have noticed that the feds (federal law enforcement not the Feds who have been propping up Obama's economy for almost six years now) are down playing that Brinsley was a member of the Black Guerilla Family while in prison because of the connections of the Black Guerilla Family had with Obama's buddy Bill Ayres and the Weatherman/Weather Underground, a radical leftist terrorist group that we who were around during the day are well familiar with.

Inside New York cop-killing gang

>" BGF was associated with a number of leftist groups, including the Black Liberation Army, Symbionese Liberation Army, and Weather Underground...."<
Black Guerrilla Family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Inside New York Cop-Killing Gang, Possible Ties To Bill Ayers' Weather Underground Terror Group | Alternative

https://raymondpronk.wordpress.com/...do-we-want-it-now-islamic-jihadist-terrorist/
 
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APACHERAT said:
>" He Was a Member of the Prison Gang, the Black Guerilla Family "<

The Obama connection.
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Kobie said:
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You liked that did you ?


>" Obama’s Chickens Coming Home To Roost — Hands Up Don’t Shoot — Lying Lunatic Left — “What Do We Want? Dead Cops! When Do We Want It? Now!” — Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley — Black Guerrilla Family – Weather Underground — Ayers "<
 
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Kobie said:
Well, you've been running screaming from the truth this entire thread in your desperate attempt to play the blame game.
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Sharpton has a part in the death of two innocent cops (and minorities at that), why are you so insistent on being on the wrong side?
 
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