One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

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tres borrachos said:

Why did you post that? It has nothing to do with what I said he should have done which is go in front of the cameras and give a statement. Volunteering federal dollars to the NYPD isn't toning down the rhetoric.

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Especially since he's using taxpayers dollars to turn down the political heat.

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tres borrachos said:

I want to hear the good Reverend, as well as others who are leading the black community, call out everyone associated with that March in NYC on the 13th where people were calling for deaths of policemen. But that will never happen.

I watched his show earlier. He's defiant. He may as well have said "If the white cops stopped shooting black boys all over the streets, this never would have happened."

Nobody in their right mind thinks his hands are clean. They aren't. He wanted decisiveness. I don't believe he wanted any cops' deaths. But he sure as **** wanted race relations to stay strained. He's made his god damn career on it.

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Now, good ol' All is getting death threats...

Sharpton: I got death threats after NYPD cops were executed | New York Post

Maybe he should call the cops?

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Grant said:

Especially since he's using taxpayers dollars to turn down the political heat.

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I think Obama thinks offering them money is going to solve something.

My BIL (just retired after 27 years with the NYPD) said that's just going to make them madder.

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If I was to blame one person for what happened then the suspect who did the shooting ought to get the blame, he is the one that did it after all.

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tres borrachos said:

I want to hear the good Reverend, as well as others who are leading the black community, call out everyone associated with that March in NYC on the 13th where people were calling for deaths of policemen. But that will never happen.

I watched his show earlier. He's defiant. He may as well have said "If the white cops stopped shooting black boys all over the streets, this never would have happened."

Nobody in their right mind thinks his hands are clean. They aren't. He wanted decisiveness. I don't believe he wanted any cops' deaths. But he sure as **** wanted race relations to stay strained. He's made his god damn career on it.

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Here's a photo of Los Stupidos, courtesy of the "People's World", and successor to The Daily Worker.

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apdst said:

Link?

Were the two NYPD officers, who were assaulted at a different place than Sharpton's march?

Did Sharpton condemn either?

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Link? YOU POSTED THE LINK.

Al Sharpton Leads March in DC as NYC Protesters Chant: 'What Do We Want? Dead Cops!' - Breitbart

Now let's go over this slowly:

Al Sharpton Leads March in DC

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DC is Washington, District of Columbia. It is the capital of the United States of America and is home to the Smithsonian Institution, numerous government buildings, and the perpetually underachieving Washington Wizards of the NBA.

as NYC Protesters Chant: 'What Do We Want? Dead Cops!' - Breitbart

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NYC is New York City, the largest metropolitan area in the United States, which is 225 miles north of Washington, D.C.

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apdst said:

I'm neither...

Al Sharpton Leads March in DC as NYC Protesters Chant: 'What Do We Want? Dead Cops!' - Breitbart

Which one are you?

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So you're going with wrong and misinformed, since you're referencing a brietbart article whose own sources it links to in it's article doesn't actually verify what it says.

The National Action Network didn't have any protest scheduled on December 13th in New York City, where the youtube video of the protesters changing about the cops is from. The NAN's event on December 13th was in Washington DC. Hopefully a Fox story on that fact, and the fact it was:

1. Organized by
2. Attended by

Al Sharpton should suffice to show you that he wasn't in New York and the rally his organization was hosting wasn't in New York. Indeed, go scour the NAN site for any indication that the new york rally on the 13th was hosted by them, because there isn't any. Brietbart links to their page, but not to any actual evidence that they hosted it.

Why is that?

Because they didn't host it.

The NYC protest was the Millions March, hosted by Millions March NYC, ran by two women not affiliated with Al Sharpton or the NAN.

This press release shows who the event was organized by. You'll notice that the National Action Network is not listed on there.

A random news story by brietbart making a claim, with no facts backing it up, linking to things that don't verify their claims, is not proof. It's not different than you or any other random person on this forum making a baseless claim without anything verifying it.

The people who organized the event have it publicly listed and have put out actual press releases over a week ago...Sharpton and his group are no where to be found there.

So, will you be admitting you were wrong and we'll move on?

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tres borrachos said:

Why did you post that? It has nothing to do with what I said he should have done which is go in front of the cameras and give a statement. Volunteering federal dollars to the NYPD isn't toning down the rhetoric.

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Yeah that worked real well when the Ferguson Grand Jury decision was announced. :2wave:

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apdst said:

Now, good ol' All is getting death threats...

Sharpton: I got death threats after NYPD cops were executed | New York Post

Maybe he should call the cops?

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Everyone who calls the cops "pigs" and criticizes them to high Heaven would whimper like a little girl and dial 911 at the first sign of trouble. I've been laughing at all the false bravado on this board for weeks.

Now he knows how the NYPD cops felt after listening to those pieces of **** on December 13.

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PoS said:

If I was to blame one person for what happened then the suspect who did the shooting ought to get the blame, he is the one that did it after all.

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If you were to blame one person only then you would be right.

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Grant said:

If you were to blame one person only then you would be right.

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Has there been any proof that the suspect was inspired by the anti-cop rhetoric? If not then he and only him should get the blame.

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tres borrachos said:

I think Obama thinks offering them money is going to solve something.

My BIL (just retired after 27 years with the NYPD) said that's just going to make them madder.

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Obama seems to feel the police will accept a bribe..

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Grant said:

Here's a photo of Los Stupidos, courtesy of the "People's World", and successor to The Daily Worker.

With #ICantBreathe, new movement for justice inspires » peoplesworld

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"Race race race race race race race race race race, race. Race. Race race race. White privilege. Race race. Race - race race - race; race race."

(Later, rinse, repeat for another 32 paragraphs).

And even though neither Brown nor Garner died because of their race, it goes on and on and on.

Like I said, he and others made it about race. It isn't about race. It wasn't about race.

But just bob your head and go along.

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Zyphlin said:

So you're going with wrong and misinformed, since you're referencing a brietbart article whose own sources it links to in it's article doesn't actually verify what it says.

The National Action Network didn't have any protest scheduled on December 13th in New York City, where the youtube video of the protesters changing about the cops is from. The NAN's event on December 13th was in Washington DC. Hopefully a Fox story on that fact, and the fact it was:

1. Organized by
2. Attended by

Al Sharpton should suffice to show you that he wasn't in New York and the rally his organization was hosting wasn't in New York. Indeed, go scour the NAN site for any indication that the new york rally on the 13th was hosted by them, because there isn't any. Brietbart links to their page, but not to any actual evidence that they hosted it.

Why is that?

Because they didn't host it.

The NYC protest was the Millions March, hosted by Millions March NYC, ran by two women not affiliated with Al Sharpton or the NAN.

This press release shows who the event was organized by. You'll notice that the National Action Network is not listed on there.

A random news story by brietbart making a claim, with no facts backing it up, linking to things that don't verify their claims, is not proof. It's not different than you or any other random person on this forum making a baseless claim without anything verifying it.

The people who organized the event have it publicly listed and have put out actual press releases over a week ago...Sharpton and his group are no where to be found there.

So, will you be admitting you were wrong and we'll move on?

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Yeah, that's it. You got me. :roll:

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Al Sharpton, back in August, calling for people to not be violent and not to making the michael brown incident about their own anger

“To become violent in michael’s name is to betray the gentle giant that he was. Don’t be so angry that you distort the image of who his mother and father told us he was.”

“Some of us are making the story ‘how mad we are’ instead of ‘how promising he was’. Don’t be a traitor to Michael Brown in the name of ‘you mad’”

Mind you, as a point on this....I no more feel that Sharpton needed to proactively and continually condemn any random crazy notion said by protesters than I did regarding tea party or small government politicians and leaders coming out every time Cliven Bundy or some fringe person/group said something outrageous, in some desperate need to "denounce" them in a perpetual stream of apologizing for or condemning things completely different people said.

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PoS said:

If I was to blame one person for what happened then the suspect who did the shooting ought to get the blame, he is the one that did it after all.

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Then all of the protestors were wrong too? Because Michael Brown died at the hands of one person, and Eric Garner died at the hands of one person. So why all the chanting, protesting, and yelling about the cops when there was only one person to blame in each of those cases?

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PoS said:

Has there been any proof that the suspect was inspired by the anti-cop rhetoric? If not then he and only him should get the blame.

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No, but are you unfamiliar with how propaganda works, how creating a climate of love, or hate, can inspire other people to do good, or bad, things?

When people start chanting that they want dead cops "now", do you not think that might have an effect on the minds of some people, including those who are doing the chanting? It's odd to think that the Left(though noot necessarily you) would like to create "hate crimes" yet are comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets.

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Grant said:

Obama seems to feel the police will accept a bribe..

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Just offer them money and the problem is solved, I guess. Leadership at its finest.

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Grant said:

No, but are you unfamiliar with how propaganda works, how creating a climate of love, or hate, can inspire other people to do good, or bad, things?

When people start chanting that they want dead cops "now", do you not think that might have an effect on the minds of some people, including those who are doing the chanting? It's odd to think that the Left(though noot necessarily you) would like to create "hate crimes" yet are comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets.

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Again I ask, where is the proof that the suspect was inspired by that propaganda? Did he say he went through all the demonstrations and all that and so that motivated him to kill the cops?

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PoS said:

Again I ask, where is the proof that the suspect was inspired by that propaganda? Did he say he went through all the demonstrations and all that and so that motivated him to kill the cops?

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There isn't any.

Grant said:

No, but are you unfamiliar with how propaganda works, how creating a climate of love, or hate, can inspire other people to do good, or bad, things?

When people start chanting that they want dead cops "now", do you not think that might have an effect on the minds of some people, including those who are doing the chanting? It's odd to think that the Left(though noot necessarily you) would like to create "hate crimes" yet are comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets.

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Why do you think "the left" is "comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets"?

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PoS said:

Again I ask, where is the proof that the suspect was inspired by that propaganda? Did he say he went through all the demonstrations and all that and so that motivated him to kill the cops?

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Look again at the first word of my response.

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What's clear.....he was motivated to kill the cops at least in large part due to disagreement and anger over the judgements in the Brown and Garner case.

What's questionable....if he also got the idea, or the motivation, to kill cops because protesters chanted and called for cops to be killed.

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Kobie said:

Why do you think "the left" is "comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets"?

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Because they are just not very bright, and there is no kinder way to put it.. That's not an original idea by me, of course, because is has been repeated many times through recent decades by people who have studied the matter rather closely.

Flattering the intellect of those of lower intelligence is used by politicians to sway the more susceptible voters or by dictators who to attract their more murderous disciples. The East Germans were very good at the game, as were the Russians. Obama's not too shabby either.

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Kobie said:

There isn't any.



Why do you think "the left" is "comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets"?

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Kobie, why are you a Sharpton enabler?