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One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

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Declan said:
When did he say this? Was he interrogated by ouija board?
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He posted it on instagram prior to the shootings.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I'm not saying that, I'm saying the savage wanted to be a martyr. He cowardly attacked and killed these cops to make a name for himself but his catylyst I believe (though I may be hearing that he wasn't running? that would change my opinion) was shooting his girlfriend and being on the run.
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:shrug: I admit, I have no idea which came first in that scenario. I'm just saying it's clear that his targets were selected with that purpose in mind, whatever he did that he felt "freed" him to do so.
 
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webrockk said:
I'm illuminating the ease in which leftists decide which Americans are deserving of Constitutional protections, and which Americans aren't.

Business owners. No
Christians. No
the evil rich. No

Now we can add law enforcement officers to that list.
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I can simplify that list.

Non liberals - NO
 
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Jack Fabulous said:
He posted it on instagram prior to the shootings.
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Except that i snot what he said. He referenced them. The most relevant part of his post was "“I Rather Die a Gangster Then Go To Sleep A Coward,” which is the exact same line of reasoning most conservatives use when it comes to their attitude toward gun ownership.
 
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Kobie said:
I'm NOT blaming Palin. I'm simply pointing out that the same people tripping over each other to absolve right-wing politicians and their "second amendment solutions" are queuing up en masse to play Blame That Liberal. Rank hypocrisy at its finest.
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No, there is a difference in the reaction you will spark when you tell people that they should try to unelect a congresscritter v when you tell people that Group A is targeting their children and that Group A should get No Peace.
 
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j-mac said:
I can simplify that list.

Non liberals - NO
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This is a crock. "Liberals" say that "non-liberals" don't get constitutional protections? Do you EVER get tired of lying?
 
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Declan said:
Except that i snot what he said. He referenced them. The most relevant part of his post was "“I Rather Die a Gangster Then Go To Sleep A Coward,”
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Actually the most relevant parts of his post would be ""I'm putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let's take 2 of theirs," and "#Shootthepolice #RIPErivGardner #RIPMikeBrown"

which is the exact same line of reasoning most conservatives use when it comes to their attitude toward gun ownership.
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No. What gun owners are pointing out is that they would be willing to defend their rights by risking their life. Being a criminal is not a right. :shrug: And if you'd rather be dead than not be a violent criminal, then society should oblige you with the latter.
 
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Kobie said:
This is a crock. "Liberals" say that "non-liberals" don't get constitutional protections?
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:shrug: sort of?
 
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Declan said:
Except that i snot what he said. He referenced them. The most relevant part of his post was "“I Rather Die a Gangster Then Go To Sleep A Coward,” which is the exact same line of reasoning most conservatives use when it comes to their attitude toward gun ownership.
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So you say, but conflating the difference between a Gangster, who murdered two policemen in cold blood, with a law abiding gun owner is not credible on it's face. He died a coward anyway by taking his own life, which saved the police a couple of rounds and a lot of paperwork. He was just a thug and a ***** in the end.
 
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Kobie said:
I'm NOT blaming Palin. I'm simply pointing out that the same people tripping over each other to absolve right-wing politicians and their "second amendment solutions" are queuing up en masse to play Blame That Liberal. Rank hypocrisy at its finest.
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Gifford gets shot by a mental patient, and observing that fact in context of 2nd amendment rights is hypocritical, when the same person observes that de Blasio doesn't have his own cop's backs?

Can you help me out here Kobie? I'm not seeing how it is. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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Declan said:
When did he say this? Was he interrogated by ouija board?
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Good grief. You don't even know what the story is. :doh
 
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eohrnberger said:
Gifford gets shot by a mental patient, and observing that fact in context of 2nd amendment rights is hypocritical, when the same person observes that de Blasio doesn't have his own cop's backs?

Can you help me out here Kobie? I'm not seeing how it is. Maybe I'm missing something.
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De Blasio "not having his own cops backs" led someone to drive from 3 states away to shoot two of them?
 
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Kobie said:
De Blasio "not having his own cops backs" led someone to drive from 3 states away to shoot two of them?
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Good grief, can you just reframe everything to the absurd?
 
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clownboy said:
Good grief, can you just reframe everything to the absurd?
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Obviously you think de Blasio carries some responsibility for another person's actions. I'm just trying to figure out how.
 
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Kobie said:
Obviously you think de Blasio carries some responsibility for another person's actions. I'm just trying to figure out how.
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Really? You're going to play that game? He carries the responsibility for supporting criminals over the law in an issue where he was directly responsible for ordering the crackdown in the first place. That's called leaving your people twisting in the wind. That creates an opening, an endorsement, an encouragement, for that other disturbed person's actions.
 
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Declan said:
Except that i snot what he said. He referenced them. The most relevant part of his post was "“I Rather Die a Gangster Then Go To Sleep A Coward,” which is the exact same line of reasoning most conservatives use when it comes to their attitude toward gun ownership.
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Not quite sure what conservatives and their attitudes towards gun ownership have to do with a deranged psychopath gunning down two cops in cold blood, but whatever...
 
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clownboy said:
Really? You're going to play that game? He carries the responsibility for supporting criminals over the law in an issue where he was directly responsible for ordering the crackdown in the first place. That's called leaving your people twisting in the wind. That creates an opening, an endorsement, an encouragement, for that other disturbed person's actions.
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That's absurd.
 
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Kobie said:
Obviously you think de Blasio carries some responsibility for another person's actions. I'm just trying to figure out how.
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good question.

why were the police signing petitions for the Mayor NOT to show up at any of their funerals if they were killed, and doing it BEFORE these policemen were gunned down?

an even better question that probably answers your first question. try it
 
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Kobie said:
De Blasio "not having his own cops backs" led someone to drive from 3 states away to shoot two of them?
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Naa. That don't make sense. And he rode a bus I think.

Now if you wanted to put forth the premise that the excessive Brown and Gardner news coverage, or the excessive race hustlers news coverage may have incited this person to action, that may have something to it, but that's tenuous at best, I think.
 
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cpwill said:
Actually the most relevant parts of his post would be ""I'm putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let's take 2 of theirs," and "#Shootthepolice #RIPErivGardner #RIPMikeBrown"



No. What gun owners are pointing out is that they would be willing to defend their rights by risking their life. Being a criminal is not a right. :shrug: And if you'd rather be dead than not be a violent criminal, then society should oblige you with the latter.
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Antisocial attitudes are antisocial attitudes whether it is a black guy in Brooklyn or a white guy in Kentucky. Only difference is that for certain people it is acceptable for their kind to be constantly talking about violence against law enforcement while it is bad for people of a different kind to be be talking about it.
 
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humbolt said:
So you say, but conflating the difference between a Gangster, who murdered two policemen in cold blood, with a law abiding gun owner is not credible on it's face. He died a coward anyway by taking his own life, which saved the police a couple of rounds and a lot of paperwork. He was just a thug and a ***** in the end.
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Which is why he owned a gun in the first place.
 
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Kobie said:
That's absurd.
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Because it busts your little game of ignoring reality to suit your passive defense of all things anti-police. Are you denying it was the mayor that ordered the crackdown on illegal street sales? Are you denying the mayor's subsequent throw them to the wolves stance, avoiding any mention that he was responsible for the crackdown to begin with? Are you denying that factors in to anti-police sentiment?
 
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Declan said:
When did he say this? Was he interrogated by ouija board?
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He tweeted two messages before he executed Liu and Ramos. That's when he said it.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Do you believe cops get a fair shake currently?
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As long as their rights aren't compromised.
 
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Declan said:
Which is why he owned a gun in the first place.
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Jim Webb owns hand guns. Diane Feinstein owns hand guns. They are thugs, ******s and murderers.
 
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