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One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

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Amadeus said:
Again, he told his son that he may face danger if he deals with the police inappropriately. Something that conservatives generally want black parents to teach their children when dealing with the authorities.

“It’s different for a white child. That’s just the reality in this country,” de Blasio said. “And with Dante, very early on with my son, we said, ‘Look, if a police officer stops you, do everything he tells you to do, don’t move suddenly, don’t reach for your cellphone,’ because we knew, sadly, there’s a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if it was a young man of color.”

There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging this reality.
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You just destroyed your argument.
 
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apdst said:
You just destroyed your argument.
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How so? I've said nothing different since I began this 'argument'.
 
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Amadeus said:
If a lone gunman can upset the relationship between blacks and cops, then it wasn't a very stable relationship to begin with.
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This wasn't a lone nut, who woke up yesterday morning and decided to waste some cops. His decision was fueled by the anti-police propaganda we've been hearing for 5 months.

Stable, or not, this event will naturally cause cops to be wary of black folks, who are walking up to them. Black people are going to die because of this.
 
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Amadeus said:
How so? I've said nothing different since I began this 'argument'.
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You claimed Danye De Blasio's race had nothing to do with it. You proved yourself wrong. You also claimed that De Blasio didn't throw the cops under the bus. You proved yourself wrong.
 
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apdst said:
You claimed Danye De Blasio's race had nothing to do with it. You proved yourself wrong. You also claimed that De Blasio didn't throw the cops under the bus. You proved yourself wrong.
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Where did I say this?
 
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apdst said:
This wasn't a lone nut, who woke up yesterday morning and decided to waste some cops. His decision was fueled by the anti-police propaganda we've been hearing for 5 months.

Stable, or not, this event will naturally cause cops to be wary of black folks, who are walking up to them. Black people are going to die because of this.
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And de Blassio, Sharpton, and liberals are responsible. Got it.
 
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Amadeus said:
Where did I say this?
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Watch out! Dumb and Dumber will play you if you let them.
 
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Amadeus said:
And de Blassio, Sharpton, and liberals are responsible. Got it.
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They played a part, that's for sure.
 
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apdst said:
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I asked for a quote confirming your allegation. You didn't provide one.
 
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Amadeus said:
I asked for a quote confirming your allegation. You didn't provide one.
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Sure, I did. I quoted your exact words.
 
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Amadeus said:
Negative racial stereotypes.
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So, what's different from you, or the Mayor doing the exact same thing where police are concerned?

De Blassio also said the police are there to protect him in the same breath.
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Some people are very good at leaving themselves plausable deniability?

Again, he told his son that he may face danger if he deals with the police inappropriately. Something that conservatives generally want black parents to teach their children when dealing with the authorities.
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And that is just bull ****...Yes, parents should be teaching their children respect for LEO's, but it doesn't just apply to blacks. In terming it that way, you are purposely injecting that LE is somehow racially biased, and that right now is just not only wrong, but dangerous.

“It’s different for a white child. That’s just the reality in this country,” de Blasio said. “And with Dante, very early on with my son, we said, ‘Look, if a police officer stops you, do everything he tells you to do, don’t move suddenly, don’t reach for your cellphone,’ because we knew, sadly, there’s a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if it was a young man of color.”
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You're placing the emphasis on the wrong place....Where he says "It's different for a white child".... is IMHO, just as destructive as what you think racism is, because it is the same thought pattern....It is a disgusting attitude.
 
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apdst said:
Sure, I did. I quoted your exact words.
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This is becoming tiresome. Quote where I said that de Blasio talking to his son wasn't about race. I've been saying this from almost the beginning. My argument hasn't changed.
 
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j-mac said:
So, what's different from you, or the Mayor doing the exact same thing where police are concerned?
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If I understand you correctly, the difference is I don't have the authority of a police officer.

Some people are very good at leaving themselves plausable deniability?
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Oh please.

And that is just bull ****...Yes, parents should be teaching their children respect for LEO's, but it doesn't just apply to blacks. In terming it that way, you are purposely injecting that LE is somehow racially biased, and that right now is just not only wrong, but dangerous.
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It's dangerous not to acknowledge this fact for black people, who are confronted by police more often than whites.

You're placing the emphasis on the wrong place....Where he says "It's different for a white child".... is IMHO, just as destructive as what you think racism is, because it is the same thought pattern....It is a disgusting attitude.
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It is different for a white child, IMO. Especially since black children are misidentified as being older than they actually are.
 
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Amadeus said:
If I understand you correctly, the difference is I don't have the authority of a police officer.



Oh please.



It's dangerous not to acknowledge this fact for black people, who are confronted by police more often than whites.



It is different for a white child, IMO. Especially since black children are misidentified as being older than they actually are.
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I disagree...And until maybe attitudes like the one you're displaying here changes, then there will be no real resolution on racial divides...
 
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Amadeus said:
This is becoming tiresome. Quote where I said that de Blasio talking to his son wasn't about race. I've been saying this from almost the beginning. My argument hasn't changed.
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I'm sure all that dancing around is wearing you out.

I said,

apdst said:
Telling your biracial children that they can't trust cops, because of their race, is doing exactly that.
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Then, you said,

Amadeus said:
He never said that. De Blasio told his son to take special care when dealing with the police who are there to protect him (almost an exact quote).
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Careful, you might tear an ACL.
 
Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

apdst said:
This wasn't a lone nut, who woke up yesterday morning and decided to waste some cops. His decision was fueled by the anti-police propaganda we've been hearing for 5 months.

Stable, or not, this event will naturally cause cops to be wary of black folks, who are walking up to them. Black people are going to die because of this.
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Why will this cause cops to be naturally weary of black people? The NYPD is minority--majority. I am fairly certain that in that mix there is a black person or two.
 
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Declan said:
Why will this cause cops to be naturally weary of black people? The NYPD is minority--majority. I am fairly certain that in that mix there is a black person or two.
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Because, after a black dude walks up and pumps multiple rounds into two cops, with no warning, nor provocation, it's only natural that from now into the foreseeable future, cops are going to be Leary of a black person approaching them.
 
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Declan said:
Why will this cause cops to be naturally weary of black people? The NYPD is minority--majority. I am fairly certain that in that mix there is a black person or two.
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Maybe it was the crowd walking down the street chanting.

'What do we want?'

'Dead cops'

'When do we want it?'

'Now'


Then two cops get killed eating a Roast Beef, and Swiss on Rye for nothing.
 
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j-mac said:
Maybe it was the crowd walking down the street chanting.

'What do we want?'

'Dead cops'

'When do we want it?'

'Now'


Then two cops get killed eating a Roast Beef, and Swiss on Rye for nothing.
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When you support taking away guns from the general population, then you would be supportive of people, cops or otherwise, not being killed "for nothing." Until the guns are taken away, the details are little more than bias porn.
 
Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

apdst said:
Because, after a black dude walks up and pumps multiple rounds into two cops, with no warning, nor provocation, it's only natural that from now into the foreseeable future, cops are going to be Leary of a black person approaching them.
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The shooter is dead. Do they think he is Lazarus or something?
 
Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

Declan said:
When you support taking away guns from the general population, then you would be supportive of people, cops or otherwise, not being killed "for nothing." Until the guns are taken away, the details are little more than bias porn.
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I think there is a whole place for gun debates...Go there.
 
Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

Declan said:
The shooter is dead. Do they think he is Lazarus or something?
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Yeah, no one else would ever think of violence these days....
 
Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

Declan said:
The shooter is dead. Do they think he is Lazarus or something?
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Stop being obtuse. You know damn well what I'm talking about.
 
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