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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    You do have the right to fight a cop.
    Um, no one has "the right to fight a cop".

    People have a "right to self defense" if someone is unlawfully physically threaten them. If that person unlawfully physically threatening someone is a cop, then sure, you have the right to self defense against that person.

    However there's no inherent "right to fight a cop", full stop.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Um, no one has "the right to fight a cop".

    People have a "right to self defense" if someone is unlawfully physically threaten them. If that person unlawfully physically threatening someone is a cop, then sure, you have the right to self defense against that person.

    However there's no inherent "right to fight a cop", full stop.
    The Declaration of Independence would seem to indicate otherwise.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The Declaration of Independence would seem to indicate otherwise.
    Could you quote me exactly where the declaration of independence suggests one has a "right to fight a cop"?

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And no, you didn't specifically come off that way. I'll admit I'm potentially a bit defensive as well, since others have been flat out insinuating that because I'm a conservative I'm somehow wrong or a traitor or not REALLY a conservative for actually treating this situation the same way that I treated pretty much every other past instance where people tried to blame the speech of others for a horrible act.



    There are some that probably were...but most of the people participating on these threads weren't here talking about the gabby giffords thing to be quite honest. The few that were, I've had no issue pointing out their hypocrisy just as I've been doing on the other side. I won't mention the name because I don't remembe if it was this thread or another, but I actually flat out linked to a particular members post where he was doing the very thing he was railing against someone for doing here.

    But you have to admit...the whole "argued at that time and have jumped ot the completel yopposite arguement" notion is pretty applicable to people across the aisles at this point.
    Yeah, you got a point there....But then so goes the dance of political debate these day eh?
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    You do have the right to fight a cop.
    Um, no you don't. Obviously.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You do? Could you show me in the Constitution where that exists? Or maybe it is in statute?
    You have to right to self defense... even if it's a cop.

    So yeah, you have the right to fight a cop.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    You have to right to self defense... even if it's a cop.

    So yeah, you have the right to fight a cop.
    You have to prove self defense, your odds are better playing the lottery.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

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    The state collectivist left's 'bloodless' revolution hasn't been quite as successful as they'd hoped.

    in fact, it's hit a brick wall.

    Despite his spoken and unspoken promises and soaring 'hopeful' rhetoric, their last best hope for 'fundamental transformation' failed them. Spectacularly. Despite decades of national media infiltration, despite decades of infiltrating the nation's education systems, America, perhaps now fully awake, has rejected their authoritarianism and flagrant, prolific deceit, and reduced their voices in US and most state governments to an impotent murmur.

    They are disillusioned, disgusted, disappointed, and in complete disarray... their only remaining option is to become dangerous.

    are they, right in front of your eyes, exploiting blacks to escalate their 'revolution' from bloodless to bloody?

    Insane? or something to ponder in New Amerika?
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You have to prove self defense, your odds are better playing the lottery.
    Agreed. It's your word against the cop's. Very low probability of success.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    You have to right to self defense... even if it's a cop.

    So yeah, you have the right to fight a cop.
    No, that means you have a right to self defense, even if it's a cop

    A right to fight a cop would suggest you can go right a cop for any reason

    I have a right to self defense against a 95 year old cripple women. Does that mean I have a "right to fight a 95 year old crippled woman"?

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