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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you were to blame one person only then you would be right.
    Has there been any proof that the suspect was inspired by the anti-cop rhetoric? If not then he and only him should get the blame.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I think Obama thinks offering them money is going to solve something.

    My BIL (just retired after 27 years with the NYPD) said that's just going to make them madder.
    Obama seems to feel the police will accept a bribe..

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Here's a photo of Los Stupidos, courtesy of the "People's World", and successor to The Daily Worker.

    With #ICantBreathe, new movement for justice inspires peoplesworld
    "Race race race race race race race race race race, race. Race. Race race race. White privilege. Race race. Race - race race - race; race race."

    (Later, rinse, repeat for another 32 paragraphs).

    And even though neither Brown nor Garner died because of their race, it goes on and on and on.

    Like I said, he and others made it about race. It isn't about race. It wasn't about race.

    But just bob your head and go along.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you're going with wrong and misinformed, since you're referencing a brietbart article whose own sources it links to in it's article doesn't actually verify what it says.

    The National Action Network didn't have any protest scheduled on December 13th in New York City, where the youtube video of the protesters changing about the cops is from. The NAN's event on December 13th was in Washington DC. Hopefully a Fox story on that fact, and the fact it was:

    1. Organized by
    2. Attended by

    Al Sharpton should suffice to show you that he wasn't in New York and the rally his organization was hosting wasn't in New York. Indeed, go scour the NAN site for any indication that the new york rally on the 13th was hosted by them, because there isn't any. Brietbart links to their page, but not to any actual evidence that they hosted it.

    Why is that?

    Because they didn't host it.

    The NYC protest was the Millions March, hosted by Millions March NYC, ran by two women not affiliated with Al Sharpton or the NAN.

    This press release shows who the event was organized by. You'll notice that the National Action Network is not listed on there.

    A random news story by brietbart making a claim, with no facts backing it up, linking to things that don't verify their claims, is not proof. It's not different than you or any other random person on this forum making a baseless claim without anything verifying it.

    The people who organized the event have it publicly listed and have put out actual press releases over a week ago...Sharpton and his group are no where to be found there.

    So, will you be admitting you were wrong and we'll move on?
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Al Sharpton, back in August, calling for people to not be violent and not to making the michael brown incident about their own anger

    “To become violent in michael’s name is to betray the gentle giant that he was. Don’t be so angry that you distort the image of who his mother and father told us he was.”

    “Some of us are making the story ‘how mad we are’ instead of ‘how promising he was’. Don’t be a traitor to Michael Brown in the name of ‘you mad’”

    Mind you, as a point on this....I no more feel that Sharpton needed to proactively and continually condemn any random crazy notion said by protesters than I did regarding tea party or small government politicians and leaders coming out every time Cliven Bundy or some fringe person/group said something outrageous, in some desperate need to "denounce" them in a perpetual stream of apologizing for or condemning things completely different people said.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If I was to blame one person for what happened then the suspect who did the shooting ought to get the blame, he is the one that did it after all.
    Then all of the protestors were wrong too? Because Michael Brown died at the hands of one person, and Eric Garner died at the hands of one person. So why all the chanting, protesting, and yelling about the cops when there was only one person to blame in each of those cases?
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Has there been any proof that the suspect was inspired by the anti-cop rhetoric? If not then he and only him should get the blame.
    No, but are you unfamiliar with how propaganda works, how creating a climate of love, or hate, can inspire other people to do good, or bad, things?

    When people start chanting that they want dead cops "now", do you not think that might have an effect on the minds of some people, including those who are doing the chanting? It's odd to think that the Left(though noot necessarily you) would like to create "hate crimes" yet are comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama seems to feel the police will accept a bribe..
    Just offer them money and the problem is solved, I guess. Leadership at its finest.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, but are you unfamiliar with how propaganda works, how creating a climate of love, or hate, can inspire other people to do good, or bad, things?

    When people start chanting that they want dead cops "now", do you not think that might have an effect on the minds of some people, including those who are doing the chanting? It's odd to think that the Left(though noot necessarily you) would like to create "hate crimes" yet are comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets.
    Again I ask, where is the proof that the suspect was inspired by that propaganda? Did he say he went through all the demonstrations and all that and so that motivated him to kill the cops?

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Again I ask, where is the proof that the suspect was inspired by that propaganda? Did he say he went through all the demonstrations and all that and so that motivated him to kill the cops?
    There isn't any.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, but are you unfamiliar with how propaganda works, how creating a climate of love, or hate, can inspire other people to do good, or bad, things?

    When people start chanting that they want dead cops "now", do you not think that might have an effect on the minds of some people, including those who are doing the chanting? It's odd to think that the Left(though noot necessarily you) would like to create "hate crimes" yet are comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets.
    Why do you think "the left" is "comfortable with this cry to have dead cops in the streets"?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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