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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    By fairness I mean that if there's evidence that the guy broke the law he goes to trial. And to extend that by fairness I mean that the laws themselves are fair and reasonable.
    The grand jury said that evidence doesn't exist.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sure, back off the racist crap now.
    With all due respect, my reference was to a war between the cops and the anti-cop crowd. There are plenty cop haters out there that are not black.

    In this particular case YOU are the one perpetuating the idea of a racial bias.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    With all due respect, my reference was to a war between the cops and the anti-cop crowd. There are plenty cop haters out there that are not black.

    In this particular case YOU are the one perpetuating the idea of a racial bias.
    So... cop haters are at war with cops. That's your revelation?

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The grand jury said that evidence doesn't exist.
    Yes I know that. The problem is that the Grand Jury system may well be flawed with respect to cops. Since the local DA is the only person who presents evidence to the to Grand Jury and since his presentation has a huge effect on the outcome and finally since the local DA works glove-in-hand with the PD there's an obvious conflict of interest potential here. And again, the almost complete lack of police indictments by GJ in NY, given a near 100% success rate for non police indictments should tell you something.

    Honestly police investigations should be done a special prosecutor, probably state appointed. At the very least it would put to bed any idea that bad cops are given a pass by their buddies in the DAs office.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So... cop haters are at war with cops. That's your revelation?
    I thought that my words were pretty clear.

    Well, mother****ers, if you really wanted to start a war this is the way to do it.
    Do you see that "if" statement? That's an indication that a war has not yet begun but continued actions along the lines of those being discussed will likely lead to a war.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Yes I know that. The problem is that the Grand Jury system may well be flawed with respect to cops. Since the local DA is the only person who presents evidence to the to Grand Jury and since his presentation has a huge effect on the outcome and finally since the local DA works glove-in-hand with the PD there's an obvious conflict of interest potential here. And again, the almost complete lack of police indictments by GJ in NY, given a near 100% success rate for non police indictments should tell you something.

    Honestly police investigations should be done a special prosecutor, probably state appointed. At the very least it would put to bed any idea that bad cops are given a pass by their buddies in the DAs office.
    So, you want to deny police officers their constutional rights?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I thought that my words were pretty clear.



    Do you see that "if" statement? That's an indication that a war has not yet begun but continued actions along the lines of those being discussed will likely lead to a war.
    Who are the "mother****ers"? If it's "cop haters", their war is already on (as obvious by their label) - so no one is starting anything.

    Are you telling us cop haters have not been at war with cops and this crazy person marks the beginning of the cop hater vs. cops war? That's nonsense.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you want to deny police officers their constutional rights?
    How did you get that out of my post? A special prosecutor doesn't deny the cops their rights.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    How did you get that out of my post? A special prosecutor doesn't deny the cops their rights.
    That's exactly what it does. It violates a cop's right to equal protection under the law.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly what it does. It violates a cop's right to equal protection under the law.

    How does a special prosecutor - someone who simply has no ties to the local law enforcement machine - violate a cop's rights?
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