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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Blacks are generally seen as being more threatening than any other racial group. Not just by cops, but by many people....
    Why do you suppose that is? I don't buy into that btw. I don't discount that others may feel differently, but in my experience, I generally don't fear blacks just because they are black when walking down the street....I may fear gang members, black, white, hispanic, etc. I may fear criminals....but not because they are black. That is a mischaracterization I think.

    If de Blasio is telling his children to respect a cop and to do as he is told to avoid confrontation, shouldn't you be applauding him? Isn't that what conservative say whenever a black is accidentally choked/shot/killed by police?
    But that's not what he is saying when he is highlighting, and I quote: "the danger that he may face …" That's not teaching respect, that's teaching fear.
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I've already done that. See above.
    No, you really didn't, but I give you as much time as you need....
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This incident just made things worse. You can thank the hands up folks for this one.
    Don't change the subject. Are you saying that de Blasio shouldn't teach his children how to deal with police officers in an appropriate manner to avoid confrontation?

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Don't change the subject. Are you saying that de Blasio shouldn't teach his children how to deal with police officers in an appropriate manner to avoid confrontation?
    Last time I checked the subject is: two NYPD cops were murdered by a hands up'er in retrobution for the deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Don't change the subject. Are you saying that de Blasio shouldn't teach his children how to deal with police officers in an appropriate manner to avoid confrontation?
    Well, first you have to articulate if you think that fearing the police is the correct thing to teach his son, and further if you think that publicizing that message during a time that fed division, and anger aimed at the police was the right thing to do?
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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why do you suppose that is?
    Negative racial stereotypes.

    But that's not what he is saying when he is highlighting, and I quote: "the danger that he may face " That's not teaching respect, that's teaching fear.
    De Blassio also said the police are there to protect him in the same breath.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Negative racial stereotypes.
    What effect on those stereotypes did this crime have, ya think? Do you think it will have a very negative impact on the interaction between cops and black folks? Especially when these murders are condoned by some people.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, first you have to articulate if you think that fearing the police is the correct thing to teach his son, and further if you think that publicizing that message during a time that fed division, and anger aimed at the police was the right thing to do?
    Again, he told his son that he may face danger if he deals with the police inappropriately. Something that conservatives generally want black parents to teach their children when dealing with the authorities.

    “It’s different for a white child. That’s just the reality in this country,” de Blasio said. “And with Dante, very early on with my son, we said, ‘Look, if a police officer stops you, do everything he tells you to do, don’t move suddenly, don’t reach for your cellphone,’ because we knew, sadly, there’s a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if it was a young man of color.”

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging this reality.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What effect on those stereotypes did this crime have, ya think? Do you think it will have a very negative impact on the interaction between cops and black folks? Especially when these murders are condoned by some people.
    If a lone gunman can upset the relationship between blacks and cops, then it wasn't a very stable relationship to begin with.

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    Re: One NYPD Cop Dead, Another Critical After They Were Shot in Vehicle[W:132]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Negative racial stereotypes.



    De Blassio also said the police are there to protect him in the same breath.
    Negative racial stereotypes ?

    Has the " Hands up dont shoot " crowd done anything to dispel any of those stereotypes ?

    No, nothing at all. If anything they've reinforced them.

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